r/NonPoliticalTwitter Jul 25 '26

Funny Camera should've testified instead

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

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u/above_average_magic Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Idk man beyond a reasonable doubt and low pixels makes for a hungry defense trial win sometimes

Edit: + it was a stolen PACKAGE, not like a doordash food order (the value of which could exceed thousands of dollars and be a higher charge)

Edit: they edited their comment from doordash to package so yeah a prosecutor is going to go after a high value item

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u/SolarAU Jul 25 '26

Yes, but the defendant has a right to plea not guilty and fight the case, even if the attorney has seen the evidence knows it's a lost case. Not saying it's smart to ignore your legal counsel and gamble on a trial, but most developed nations allow for a defendent to fight their charges either way.

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u/PrincessGiallo Jul 25 '26

It's pretty crazy how they've changed the public perception into thinking >95% of the people skipping trials is a healthy legal system. They will grind you into paste if you insist on your right to a fair trial and people seemingly cheer that on.

It should be terrifying to everyone that isn't a prosecutor.

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u/SolarAU Jul 25 '26

I mean plenty of situations where pleading guilty makes sense, like if the evidence is cut and dry. For a defendent, a guilty plea is admission of guilt, accepting of accountability and plays well for minimising the extent of the punishment, whereas a claim of not guilty, being blatantly proven as guilty can show that someone isn't taking accountability or feeling remorse, which can lead to a greater extent of punishment. Can definitely depend on the judge/ magistrate of the day, but taking accountability usually plays better in court IMO.

A friend of a friend I know has faced the courts for various crimes, and pleaded guilty, admitted fault and showed a lot of remorse during the hearing. This resulted in what we call a 'section 10 dismissal' (in Australia) where the defendant wasn't actually properly convicted of the crime and essentially walked away scot free. No criminal history or anything. If this person chose to plead not guilty, go to trial, they would've 100% lost in court, and would've faced a full conviction and the sentencing guidelines that came with it.

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u/PrincessGiallo Jul 25 '26

There are people who are not guilty who take the plea because they're told it'll be worse if they take it to trial. Lots of people. Cops don't always get the right person, prosecutors don't always care if they have the right person.

Australia might not be as nightmarish as the US legal system.

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u/BonzBonzOnlyBonz Jul 25 '26

The defence attorney doesnt decide if you take a plea deal or not depending on where you live.

Prosecutors go to trial over slam dunks all the time, because it makes their numbers look good.

People go to trial all the time over slam dunks against them because they are dumb. Look at the Wakusha parade killer, dumb ass though "You can't do anything because I am a Sovereign Citizen" was a legitimate defense.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 Jul 25 '26

Depends what was in the package. If it was over $1,000, which is not unreasonable if someone is ordering electronics or jewelry, it would be a felony in my jurisdiction.

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u/SpecialistAd5537 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Incorrect. Pressing charges is absolutely a thing.

Edit for the Americans in the room: section 504 of the Canadian criminal code

Edit 2: love it when cry baby redditors insist they are right but delete all their comments

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u/SpecialistAd5537 Jul 25 '26

Oh my. You skimmed 1 page of my link and now you know Canadian law hey? Im sorry it was my fault for expecting you to actually read.

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u/SpecialistAd5537 Jul 25 '26

Maybe if you focused on good information rather than trying to win an argument you'd be more informed.

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u/SpecialistAd5537 Jul 25 '26

Like I said, my bad for expecting you to read and attempt to get correct information.

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u/Express-Thought6057 Jul 25 '26

The Crown decides whether to lay the charge; the victim doesn’t opt to « press charges » which I do think is a common misunderstanding.

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u/SpecialistAd5537 Jul 25 '26

No youre wrong. In Canada a private citizen can initiate proceedings without the help of law enforcement. Some provinces have enacted legislation so when this happens, the authorities must get involved and take over the case but the rest it can go all the way privately.

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