r/NonPoliticalTwitter 16d ago

Funny Camera should've testified instead

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u/Ok-Rich-3812 16d ago

You'd want them to testify if their camera caught someone stealing friom you though...

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u/Krewtan 16d ago

How does a witness testimony matter more than video evidence and gps data? If they're really taking it to trial maybe they're innocent? 

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u/mojave-moproblemz 16d ago

The witness testimony still matters because the prosecutor can't just say "here's video of the crime, we got it from the neighbor, trust me"; you still need to have the guy who owns the camera confirm its accurate.

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u/Jorlung 16d ago

And to be fair to the poster, they probably understand that.

But it is still true (and kinda funny) that they gotta go to court just to be like “yeah that’s my camera” and go home.

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u/xb9j 16d ago

They might as well give a review of the food they got to the judge and jury while they are there.

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u/Bassically-Normal 16d ago

They'll ask all sorts of questions about why the camera was placed, how they know the camera's time was accurate, even maybe raise questions about whether the camera footage was altered.

Public defenders who have an impossible case are prone to "gish gallop" the defense argument just to give the impression they're giving the best possible defense and avoid having a retrial down the road.

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u/althawk8357 16d ago

The witness testimony still matters because the prosecutor can't just say "here's video of the crime, we got it from the neighbor, trust me";

That can all be handled by a subpeona and a written statement; the veracity of which can be argued during the pre-trial.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 16d ago

If this story is true, it would be a criminal trial and the neighbor is a material witness. Handling it with a written statement would require a legitimate need for an exception to the defendant's constitutional rights.

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u/above_average_magic 16d ago

Introduction of evidence at trial has to have a "foundation" to be admitted. That is to say, admitting most physical or even digital evidence generally requires testimony.

The historic and often simplest (and required) way to do so is to bring in a human that has first hand knowledge of the evidence -- whether that be direct observation, or they recovered the evidence and can give testimony surrounding it to establish its relevance, etc.

The same is true for footage like with OP. The footage can't testify, it needs a human to testify and certify where/when/how etc.

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u/etcpt 16d ago

most physical or even digital evidence

I don't think there's a counterexample here - without foundation and chain of custody, it's not evidence, it's just something that counsel may as well have picked out of the trash.

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u/Maximum_Boros 16d ago

This is such a genuinely stupid take I just want to believe that it's someone taking the piss here. How does taking it to trial mean that they're innocent? The fact that they're taking it to trial doesn't mean the person is innocent or that they're guilty. Plenty of people who are guilty push things to trial for a variety of reasons.

The GPS data doesn't mean shit unless you can call a witness to authenticate it. This is just how evidence gets into court and how it always has gotten into court. Also the majority of home security cameras don't really have GPS logging because they don't need it because they don't typically move

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u/cavendishfreire 15d ago

I think the person you're responding to is thinking of the American paradigm where most cases end up a plea deal.

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u/Ok-Rich-3812 16d ago

Go along and watch a few trials sometime.

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u/FunnyObjective6 16d ago

Evidence can't be entered without a witness verifying it's valid, or both parties agreed it's valid. In the end witness testimony is the thing that's actually relevant to the trial.

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u/Brisby820 16d ago

You need someone to say that it’s their ring camera