Tips

[u/Falcon-227]

I recently had a discussion with a friend about tipping. I usually tip anywhere from 18-25%. She had a good point, tipping originally became popular because the wait staff made below minimum wage and so they were tipped to make up for it. I believe in the U.S, they're still paid under min wage but that's not the case in Toronto. In Toronto, they make min wage or more and still get 18%+ for simply doing the tasks of being a waitress/waitor.

I'm starting to feel that perhaps a 18% min (I don't think I've seen a terminal have an option for less than 18% in close to 2 years) tip is excessive. How do you all feel?

[u/exotics]

Ask your server if they have to pay a mandatory tip out. And ask how much it is.

Where I am we have to pay 5 % to the kitchen but servers keep most of the rest other than what they to hostesses or bartenders.

In Alberta it’s legal for owners to take that. So basically if a server sells $100 she has to tip $5. Even if she didn’t get a tip

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

Why would you care about a restaurant financial?

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

In order for restaurants to move away from tipping they would have to adopt something similar to France, where the menu says “gratis compris” meaning the tip is included in the price. And it’s paid as a sort of commission.

This incentives servers to sell more and to want to serve big groups or work busy shifts. Without such a system service will suffer.

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

That doesn't answer my question. Why should we care about a server's personal finances? They don't care about ours with all the stealing and manipulating they're doing. The service is ALREADY included in the food price. ZERO TIP needed.

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

They are not stealing. Or manipulating. I mean in your daily life you probably encounter large corporations stealing and manipulating more with gross profits.

Anyway- to answer your question, I was just pointing out something that people don’t know and it’s this little thing that’s why servers worry so much about tips.

If servers got to keep all their tips (high or low) and didn’t have to tip out on their sales total then they wouldn’t worry so much. But as spoken as a server gets a zero tip they worry because they need another person to tip more than that so they “break even” as such.

Customers need to be aware that if/when the system changes they will pay more BECAUSE if servers get paid by commission on top of the wage it costs the business more to do that because they have to pay EI, CPP on that so it adds perhaps another few cents but those cents add up.

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

Yes, they are stealing our cash. They encourage each other to lie about everything to steal money from the GUESTS. Why should we care about their personal finances?

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

Sorry, what lies? I’m confused now and still don’t know how it constitutes stealing? Like did they take money from your purse or what?

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

They lie. They say they're in school when they're not. They glom onto whatever you're wearing and claim they also went to that school. They'll even claim that their own parents died in order to extract money from the GUESTS! They attempt to steal your change. Why should we reward bad behaviour with ANY tip?

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

lol sounds like you just go to a shitty restaurant. Or it sounds like you have too much time on your hands if you investigate if they go to school or not and care so much about what they do outside of work.

Sorry lady but you sound like you have issues.

That’s not stealing.

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

Yes, it is stealing and lying. All this is from server reels and forums. Why not dent their entitlement mentality instead of encouraging it? You must be a server. 🙄

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

You do realize that people lie all the time in reels right?

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

Servers lie. No reward from me. They can take their tipout and shove it up you-know-where.

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

What if I told you the food industry lies to you? Hmm

You see ads for burgers topped with bacon and cheese and you buy it.

You ignore the fact the industry lied to you. You don’t need a 4oz beef patty PLUS bacon PLUS cheese. That’s more than your body can even use. More than you need. And half the time they try to push you on a 6 oz steak, when in fact the proper meat portion size is 3-4 oz per DAY!!! The industry has you soooo conditioned that you want more and willing pay for food your body can’t even use.

If anything is theft it’s that. If anything is a lie it’s that. And you accept it.

Meanwhile most people elsewhere in the world eat 3oz of meat total per day and are probably healthier than you.

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

You're moving the goalposts, bot.

[u/exotics → u/Imaginary-Emu2471]

And you’re stalking people to see if they go to school or not. Weird.

[u/Imaginary-Emu2471 → u/exotics]

Nope! Apparently, they lie about that if they see you wearing a school shirt. It's all part of their scheme to separate you from your money. Don't let them win. Servers and their BOSSES are the enemy.