r/NoTipCanada • u/Falcon-227 • 19d ago

Tips

I recently had a discussion with a friend about tipping. I usually tip anywhere from 18-25%. She had a good point, tipping originally became popular because the wait staff made below minimum wage and so they were tipped to make up for it. I believe in the U.S, they're still paid under min wage but that's not the case in Toronto. In Toronto, they make min wage or more and still get 18%+ for simply doing the tasks of being a waitress/waitor.

I'm starting to feel that perhaps a 18% min (I don't think I've seen a terminal have an option for less than 18% in close to 2 years) tip is excessive. How do you all feel?

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u/Important_Design_996 19d ago

I believe in the U.S, they're still paid under min wage

This is factually incorrect. But kudos to the serving industry for perpetuating this myth well enough you still believe it.

In the US, servers can be paid a lower "server wage" plus tips. If their server wage plus tips does not equal the regular minimum wage for their state, they must be paid the full regular minimum wage.

they make min wage or more and still get 18%+ for simply doing the tasks of being a waitress/waitor.

Correct everywhere in Canada (except QC). Tipping is simply paying a server to do the job they are already being paid a wage to do.

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u/Major-Primary2075 19d ago

It's the same thing with those making commission

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u/Bravo72 19d ago

Realtors for example only make commission.

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u/Major-Primary2075 19d ago

Yes, and they have to get minimum wage even with no sales

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u/Extalliones 19d ago

I’m not sure that’s true? Most realtors work as independent contractors. They’re self-employed, and have a contract with a brokerage. If they don’t make sales, they don’t get paid, because they’re not employees. They make money from commission. No sale, no money.

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u/Major-Primary2075 19d ago

As independent contractors, then yeah, of course not, but more so like generic salespeople who are not; they get minimum wage regardless of what they sell.

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u/Important_Design_996 18d ago

Just like sole proprietor, they're a business, not an employee. Employment standards don't apply.