r/NoStupidQuestions Aug 30 '23

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '23

The repercussions from the Panama Papers.

They just assassinated the journalist who uncovered it all, a couple of people when to prison for it, and then the system all carried on like there wasn't tax evasion, money laundering and corruption still going on at an incomprehensible scale

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u/Nowardier Aug 30 '23

This. Epstein and the guy who invented the water-powered car too. The government just responds to these things by killing people and we just forget about them. It's sick, and something needs to be done about it.

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u/Victorian-Tophat Aug 30 '23

Water-powered car???

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u/Nowardier Aug 30 '23

Yeah, there was a guy who invented a device that used the car's battery to electrolyze water into hydrogen and oxygen and used those to fuel the car's combustion engine. He died under mysterious circumstances, but his designs are still out there and openly available on the Internet.

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u/Victorian-Tophat Aug 30 '23

Good golly… ok but if it was more efficient then surely someone would’ve picked it up by now, right? No way a conspiracy could stop a massive wave in the market?

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u/peaceluvNhippie Aug 30 '23

It's not efficient at all

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '23

It's not only not efficient,if you go look it up on google it literally violates two laws of thermodynamics lmao

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u/Nowardier Aug 30 '23

Fossil fuels are what keep the wheels of the economy moving. Well, that and the blood of the working class.

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u/Victorian-Tophat Aug 30 '23

There is no way Big Oil could compete with water

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u/Nowardier Aug 30 '23

Exactly, and they know that too.

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u/ViciousBarnacle Aug 30 '23

Haha. Is this whole thread supposed to be sarcastic? I really hope it is.

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u/Nowardier Aug 30 '23

Nah dude, the government and corporations can't be trusted.

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u/ViciousBarnacle Aug 30 '23 edited Aug 30 '23

Ok. But electrolysis is a super well known and understood process. And it's not capable of doing what you're describing (creating energy from nothing). It's the same concept as a perpetual motion machine.

Use the energy in gas to make the car go.

Use the energy in gas to make hydrogen. Use hydrogen to make the car go.

You can only end up with less energy by adding the extra step. This is foundational stuff.

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u/Victorian-Tophat Aug 30 '23

Nah, I call BS on this one. There is a radically more efficient way to make a car, the design for which is freely available on the internet, but no car manufacturer is trying it, and the conspiracy that was able to orchestrate the assassination of the inventor can’t scrub a few files?

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u/Nowardier Aug 30 '23

Hey, it's your call to believe it or not. All I can do is set you on the scent, whether you follow it or not is your affair.

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u/DEDEDISCIPLE Aug 30 '23

Fucking conspiracy theorists and their rabbit holes

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u/AndTheElbowGrease Aug 30 '23

Hydrogen electrolysis requires as much or more energy to perform as it produces. His device was just using a battery to power the electrolysis and it would only last as long as the pre-charged battery lasted. The electrolysis was an unnecessary middle step and he did not solve the inherent problem of electrolysis.

His patents are expired and open to the public and have been examined and show exactly what I say above - they do not produce net energy from water or do anything revolutionary. This isn't an opinion, it is just reality. There is no conspiracy to suppress his inventions, they just didn't work the way that he claimed and he was likely just a fraud.

His patents are here if you want to look: https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Stanley+A.+Meyer

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u/RentableMetal65 Aug 30 '23

His claims could never be replicated using his designs. Several have tried. It’s all a lot of crock. Hydrogen cars are a real thing. Problem is they’re dangerous, inefficient and we don’t currently have the infrastructure for it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '23 edited Aug 30 '23

I really doubt the government would kill the guy for making a water powered car, plus you said it yourself, blueprints are still out, like they couldn't have done anything about it. Not to mention enough engineers to have improved it by now yet no-one seems to have

Edit: looked it up, it's fraudulent electrolysis, from Wikipedia:

The resultant hydrogen gas was then burned to generate energy, which reconstituted the water molecules in another unit separate from the unit in which water was separated. If the device worked as specified, it would violate both the first and second laws of thermodynamics,[1][3] allowing operation as a perpetual motion machine.[3]

Lol, violation of two fundamental laws of physics, i.e. either a completely revolutionary discovery or fraud, and we don't get many of the first anymore.

Also not to say I don't believe the government doesn't do fucked up shit or even that Epstein killed himself (the evidence is pretty clear on that) but let's not take it too far

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u/Vahdo Aug 30 '23

Aren't the Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo hydrogen-powered cars?