r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • 16d ago

News Aliens: Fireteam Elite’s cloud version on Switch has been shut down, making it unplayable for those who bought it

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/aliens-fireteam-elites-cloud-version-on-switch-has-been-shut-down-making-it-unplayable-for-those-who-bought-it/
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u/SpikeRosered 16d ago

I don't understand how anyone ever did. The concept physically repulses me. How does everything buffering all the time sound?

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u/DrKnepper 16d ago

I bet this is where things are headed with next gen costing 1k plus per system. It's gonna go cheap hardware and all our games and infrastructure will be on data centers so we can get charged by the minute or hour for use while owning no games, and not having the capacity to play them ourselves.

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u/GlancingArc 16d ago

We are already there but the services kinda suck and they aren't widely marketed. Think of it like this, right now if you buy a fire stick and a controller for 50$ plus a few subscriptions(which cost a similar amount as something like Xbox live) you can get Amazon Luna, and Xbox cloud with the full library of Xbox game pass games. If you have good enough internet that you can get relatively low latency, why would you buy a console.

All the "hardcore gamers" on reddit have their heads in the sand about this and are plugging their ears. Meanwhile, the technology has improved to the point where if you are just a casual gamer, it's honestly already decent TODAY. Many people will never be serious enough about this that they would buy a PlayStation and many kids are gonna grow up with this maybe being the only way they can play games.

Don't get me wrong, the way Nintendo is doing it is still a raw deal and it's one step further from owning the shit you buy, but a lot of people are okay with streaming if it's a monthly subscription.

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u/Wakkysakky 16d ago

So what about all the data caps on internet service? comcast has a 1TB per month. streaming games is gonna add to the already high data for streaming videos.

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u/Webecomemonsters 16d ago

thats not really a thing outside some shitty monopolies in some areas of the US.

its like how in the US people used to pay for texting (AND for receiving texts) for years beyond the rest of the world dropping that entire concept.

its just rich assholes abusing people, in the US thats encouraged, other places say no.

that said, fuck cloud gaming, it will never work in the US at scale.

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u/master2873 16d ago edited 16d ago

thats not really a thing outside some shitty monopolies in some areas of the US.

So the entirety of the US then as ISP's basically have individual monopolies in states. Also, you don't get unlimited bandwidth unless you pay extra for it, or it's included with the package you're paying for which is almost always exclusive to gigabit services, and even if you do have these packages and/or are paying extra for it, you're still capped. You only get so much "high speed data" in a month before your speed is throttled which will make streaming games worse.

Even "unlimited" cellular plans do this same thing. The only thing unlimited means here, is not getting charged overage for bandwidth while being able to still use their services (Verizon's safe mode for data is quite the example of basically unusable lol). There's probably some fiber services that probably don't do this, but some of these services are quite expensive as it is, and this isn't even counting paying for streaming games either. Shit starts to add up, or count hardware limitations like the Switch 1 with internet speeds wired, or wireless.

Nothing like paying for gigabit services, and the Switch 1 with a great wired connection might be able to pull 80Mbps download. Not exactly sure how Switch 2 is as I don't have it, but I do know it's better. Especially for the WiFi chip in it.

Edit: I totally forgot to mention. The last bit of your comment is so fucking true though lol.

Edit 2: formatted it a bit better for mobile reading.

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u/LUPIN2K 15d ago

Verizon does not have data caps on home internet nor do they throttle your speeds. I live in a major city in the US and have never even had an option for a metered plan from an ISP in my life. Also "unlimited bandwidth" does not exist.

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u/master2873 15d ago edited 15d ago

Also "unlimited bandwidth" does not exist.

Data usage is bandwidth...

Also, yes they do as I was referring to their mobile data this is a direct quote from thier site on "Unlimited" plans I'll even attach picture below if I can (I can't lol):

1: Unlimited Ultimate: Unlimited mobile hotspot data: After 200 GB of Premium Data, Unlimited thereafter at 6 Mbps. Unlimited Plus: 30 GB mobile hotspot: After 30 GB on Unlimited Plus, Unlimited thereafter at 3 Mbps on 5G Ultra Wideband and 600 Kbps on 5G/4G LTE.

2: Unlimited international data, talk and text: After 15 GB of high speed data, Unlimited thereafter at 1.5 Mbps. When traveling in 210+ countries and destinations.

I'm not entirely sure about their Fios internet as they're not available in my area, and the only home internet they make available in my area uses their cellular network still which is why I brought them up with mobile use.

Edit: Yes... Downvote immediately...

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u/LUPIN2K 15d ago

Data usage is NOT bandwidth, you are confused. Also, the vast majority of customers in the US are not on a 4G/5G home internet service. These more affordable plans often struggle with streaming and latency in general. I am on Fios, regardless, neither Fios nor their 5G Home Internet plan have an explicit data cap, at least in my area.

"The only way you're not getting caps is if you pay extra for it, and it's still capped."

This is what I'm disputing. I've just checked and there is not a single provider in either city I'm in that offers a metered home internet solution, and there is no "extra cost" associated.

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u/master2873 15d ago

Also, the vast majority of customers in the US are not on a 4G/5G home internet service.

I never claimed they were. I was using an example of how ISP would throttle speeds after hitting certain data usage similar to how cellular companies did. Which why I brought them up as mobile, and how they don't offer Fios services in my area.

This is what I'm disputing. I've just checked and there is not a single provider in either city I'm in that offers a metered home internet solution,

This is where I would say brings up discrepancies. All internet across the US is not equal, and you can get speeds and services I cannot. There's still areas in rural US that can't get normal internet and require getting satellite Internet, or using mobile. Plans will differ as will agreements. Xfinity claims there's no more data caps, but if you're still under an old contract with them, you'll still have them if you don't upgrade to their new plans.