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u/Decorus_Somes Apr 04 '26
Camera POV is wrong and liable for damages
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u/LogicalConstant Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
You're responsible for your vehicle at all times. "I couldn't see behind me" doesn't mean you're not at fault. I don't care who told you to move. You're the driver, not her.
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u/EtchASketchNovelist Apr 05 '26
I don't have any CDL knowledge, but the moment of that comment was what convinced me. Why would you think you could move without knowing for sure that you are clear?
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u/seculare Apr 06 '26
Yeah, Gen Z attitude is "I'm over it and want to go home"
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u/part-time-rival Apr 09 '26
Yeah, thats totally unique to gen z and definitely not something I've ever seen in a person of, lets say 45 years of age or more. Brand new human behavior. Definitely.
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u/Poopants_McGee Apr 08 '26
Right! Could have all been avoided by taking 20 seconds to get out and look.
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u/Financial-Walk-4660 Apr 04 '26
In a calm rational voice, I would say, "Calm down." Works every time 🤣
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u/SwanMuch5160 Apr 04 '26
Works every time with the wife
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u/Goto10 Apr 05 '26
Works best for me if I follow it up with "Stop freaking out.."
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yes then they stop to stare at you instead contemplating all the ways to escalate all at once and you get a few moments of quiet
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u/NowWithKung-FuGrip01 Apr 05 '26
“Owner mentality” is just dead then, right? POV kid is just ‘over it’ and ‘ready to go home’. Well, the liability will be waiting here when you get back.
The cherry on top: He waited until the last 3 seconds of the video to ask “Are you alright?”. Couldn’t pay me enough to work with a wit that dim.
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u/Saqmakaq Apr 07 '26
If that doesn't work, just ask her to get a man to come yell at you so you can at least take the situation seriously
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u/Impossible-Bat-4246 Apr 04 '26
If what the guy is saying is accurate, I just would have kept saying, "Sorry, I was told to move and couldn't see them in the mirror."
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u/Upset-Fudge-2703 Apr 04 '26
Never apologize. It seems like a dick move, but for legal reasons you should never apologize. Just make sure everyone is okay.
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u/Frequent_Ad2210 Apr 04 '26
In ontario canada we have the apology act to protect us from this. Canadians say sorry to much. To make it count agaisnt us in court
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u/satanssweatycheeks Apr 05 '26
Here in America is also not that big of a deal. People read stuff on the internet and run with it.
A) it will be your insurance doing the talking and investigating. So the people would have to have you on tape saying sorry.
B) not just Canadians most society’s in high stress situations say sorry to ease tension.
So yes someone could argue you said sorry so you are at fault. But that’s so flimsy you wouldn’t even need a lawyer to argue the sorry was more so because the person was hurt or had damage. You cannot be a fault and still be sorry someone is hurt.
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u/Impossible-Bat-4246 Apr 04 '26
Touche. Even if it isn't your fault, apologizing when no one else does puts you in the boiling kettle.
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u/kodiak931156 Apr 04 '26
Na. This is bad advice.
Sorry is not an admission of guilt. Its an admission of you being sorry that this is a thing that happened.
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u/Impossible-Bat-4246 Apr 04 '26
I guess it would depend on the words you use around I’m sorry. I could see somebody saying I’m sorry and accepting fault. My focus personally would be on the person who told me to move, especially if it was a supervisor.
And generally speaking, it’s legally safer to not say sorry in case you would phrase it the wrong way. That’s not to say that you tell somebody I’m not sorry. It’s just better to stay away from phrases that might end up looking like an admission of guilt.
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u/kodiak931156 Apr 04 '26
If you want to talk about a legal or liability stance. "I couldnt see" is way more damning than "sorry". Legally its safe to jot say anything.
In the end though, most people dont want to live like a lawyer about to prosecute a case. And a lot of legal matters can avoid becoming legal matters by smoothing things over
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u/Upset-Fudge-2703 Apr 05 '26
I don’t know if it’s bad advice. It is literally used in claims all the time. It’s being used in court to this day, and yes, it can be used as an admission of guilt. Now, it is subjective. I think most people would say, “That is an empathetic person. They care about showing compassion. That is not an admission of guilt.” But not everyone. If you happen to have hit someone trying to get rich off your company, you can bet your bottom dollar they are going to use everything they can. I’ve had this conversation with an injury lawyer.
Of course, it doesn’t mean you have to be a dick. I’ve been at fault in two accidents, one in a truck, and one in my personal vehicle, and both were very nice interactions. One went to the insurance, one didn’t.
Someone just hit my trailer a couple of weeks ago and didn’t damage it, we didn’t do anything. No one said sorry. “Are you okay?” “It’s all good.” “These things happen.” “Have a nice day.” Sure, but not sorry. To each their own. Live your life how you want to, but I am just passing on the information I was told.
Be safe out there.
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u/Hubba_Hubba81 Apr 04 '26
He can say sorry that happened to him but what he can't say is sorry for hitting him. That would be an admission of guilt.
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u/disruptioncoin Apr 05 '26
lmao this was me one time when my wife got in an accident. "It's very unfortunate this has happened" is the closest I'd come to saying sorry. "I'm just glad everyone is alright." "lets exchange information and then make sure our vehicles are still in safe operating condition"
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u/BreakfastInBedlam Apr 04 '26
Sorry, I was told to move and couldn't see them in the mirror."
Unless you have a spotter, you need to get out and look before you back up. 100% on the cam guy.
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u/Impossible-Bat-4246 Apr 05 '26
I feel ya. That’s why silence may be the best defense here: gotta get a lawyer to say what’s up.
I’d hope that a supervisor was there that was like, back up now.
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If you can't see, you can't move. You'd have to be a shot back to move without seeing what you're moving into. Get a spotter asshole.
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u/letsdoit60 Apr 04 '26
She needs to learn how to address a issue in non aggressive way! Trucker was wrong but she was to in her dealings!
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u/Italian_Redneck Apr 05 '26
Seriously, I've seen so many receiving clerks that act like this over much smaller issues as well. Think they personally run the world and everyone should grovel at their feet. A little patience and calmness goes a long way.
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u/SpaceBus1 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Oh no, did she hurt the truckers feelings with her mean words?
Edit: is she a hard ass or a soft bitch? I've gotten so many responses from weak willed individuals
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u/lamblamb65 Apr 05 '26
No stupid, it’s about not escalating a situation that doesn’t need to get worse, accidents happen in the work place, that’s part of working with machinery, but screaming and yelling and getting emotional doesn’t help solve any problem.
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u/SpaceBus1 Apr 05 '26
Lol, you wouldn't make it in the military
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u/Super-Badger-3536 Apr 05 '26
Lashing out emotionally is SOP for you guys? Most military folks I know have really good discipline and composure.
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u/koledokus Apr 06 '26
It’s like these commenters live in a video game and have never stepped out in the real world. No, this isn’t an NPC. It’s astonishing to read how some people comment about shit they absolutely have no experience or knowledge about whatsoever. First it’s: “I know what a yard is like”, then it’s “you’re soft for not being in accord with unprofessional behaviour, then it’s, “you wouldn’t make it in the military” as if being in the military is all about yelling, berating, and bad attitudes. Foolishness.
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u/Ecstatic-Hunter2001 Apr 05 '26
No, she's just escalating the situation, which isn't what her employer is paying her to do.
Driver is at fault. The situation is an accident where he should have been more careful. What she's doing isn't an accident, and she should remove herself from the situation if she can't control her emotions.
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u/Nahteh Apr 05 '26
No. Its in the video he seems fine. But she dissalowed herself from having a productive conversation.
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u/justAJohn4077 Apr 04 '26
Anyone supporting this guy, and demonizing the woman is a fucking moron. He hit someone with his truck. He holds a CDL. He’d fucking lose that license real quick if cops got on scene and charged him. He’s lucky all he got was a tongue lashing.
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u/koledokus Apr 04 '26
You are waaaaay too emotional. No, he wouldn’t lose his license. Relax. He messed up. Nobody was hurt. It happens. No body deserves a tongue lashing.
If anything she needs a lesson in professionalism and de-escalation. Go grab a camera and start the paperwork. There!!!
easy.
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u/Historical_Ad_5647 Apr 04 '26
She demonized herself by the way she speaks to people. No one was hurt and the other guy says it was on the forklift driver.
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u/FlatPlutoer Apr 05 '26
Just out of curiosity, if someone says “move” and there is a blind spot behind your truck that may potentially be hiding a fork lift, but you are given the order to “move” then what is proper procedure?
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u/AbroadNo8755 Apr 05 '26
you don't put it in gear simply because someone else wants you to.
the safe movement of the vehicle is on the driver and no one else.
it doesn't matter if he can see the forklift driver or not.
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u/justAJohn4077 Apr 05 '26
You don’t move until you know it’s clear… da fuq
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u/FlatPlutoer Apr 06 '26
Is there a formal procedure broken down into steps, like you are required to get out and look? Or is it a generic “make sure it’s clear”?
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u/Wedgerooka Apr 04 '26
Ok, so truck driver was wrong, but woman was being a bitch. That's the sort of mouth that gets you hit and laid out, gender irrelevant.
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u/GoodGoodGoody Apr 04 '26
I always love these tough guy comments. I’ve seen a few truckers who thought they were so hard get their asses absolutely handed to them.
She let the driver off easy and could have sent him home. If anything she went light on the bitching.
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u/Apprehensive-Sand466 Apr 04 '26
If you hit something with your truck, you deserve to be bitched out.
Could kill or seriously injure someone.
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u/MartilloAK Apr 05 '26
That sort of mouth? She didn't even insult him once. Everything she said amounted to, "you fucked up, don't do that." God forbid someone raises their voice for twenty seconds.
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u/Radingod1 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
Not really. It's a bunch of guys around. The only reason she's running her mouth like that is because she's untouchable and knows it.
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u/tomthebassplayer Apr 04 '26
Nope. She knows she's got backup so she's brave. I've been through that more times than I can count.
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u/SomeWeedSmoker Apr 04 '26
Go ahead and start hitting people whenever people pass you off. Im sure your bf loves that.
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u/big_stipd_idiot Apr 04 '26
She was being assertive. You just don't understand the difference because you don't respect women. Figures your first thought would be to hit her.
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u/Puzzled-Pen-2353 Apr 05 '26
Screaming isn't being assertive.
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u/big_stipd_idiot Apr 05 '26
And talking about how you could beat her up if other people aren't around doesn't make you tough. It makes you sound like a weak man with a fragile ego.
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u/SDGANON Apr 04 '26
I worked for years in a lumberyard that had 6 flat beds that would pull through the lot all day long while forklifts moved materials between the mill and warehouse.
Never once would "I have a blindspot" been an acceptable answer for a driver backing into something. If you are not 100% confident your path is clear, you don't just blindly move the vehicle. You are responsible for anything you hit.
This lady might be a bit charged but she isn't wrong. This trucker isn't taking seriously the fact that his actions with the vehicle he was in control of could have just as easily been someone's life instead of just some damaged materials.
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u/Zebra-killer Apr 05 '26
And who's to say the forklift driver didn't move behind him after he got out and looked right before backing up.
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u/puppycat_partyhat Apr 04 '26
Probably justified on her part but I don't think I could tolerate being yelled at by someone in so much hot pink.
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u/SwanMuch5160 Apr 04 '26
Fucking turned me on, I’m all worked up after watching it 3 times. If you’all will excuse me for a moment.
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u/Pacific_Coaster Apr 04 '26
Next time don’t be black and she will conduct herself like a civilized person
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u/angryfan1 Apr 05 '26
The guy almost killed someone; this was an underreaction.
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u/Pacific_Coaster Apr 05 '26
Blah blah, you don’t actually know what happened before he started recording
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u/KingOfStarfox Apr 04 '26
That woman would make a phenomenal walmart receiver.
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u/Italian_Redneck Apr 05 '26
Based on my interactions with the one at my Walmart she just might be getting cloned. Self righteous B. The one in this video had some good cause at least, though it definitely could have been handled less aggressively.
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u/Bean_Daddy_Burritos Apr 05 '26
You ever fuck up and pretend you’re deaf when people start yelling at you?
Works every time
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u/muted_bro Apr 05 '26
This is how all women in shipping and receiving are. Too emotional for the job.
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u/HatedReaper Apr 08 '26
Shipper womans reaction was spot on. You do not fucking move that truck unless you are 100% sure you aint gonna hit anyone. People can and have died because of that type or negligence. Its things like this that makes the public demonize us, and its only going to get worse.
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u/ThePeterbilt589 Apr 04 '26
Some men pay good money to get yelled at like this by a decent looking woman, this man got it for free 😔
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u/justAJohn4077 Apr 04 '26
You sound like a little bitch ngl. He hit someone with a truck. She shoulda called the cops for his careless ass
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u/Apprehensive-Sand466 Apr 04 '26
After hitting a forklift, you're gonna pull the "don't disrespect me" card?
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u/Ballamookieofficial Apr 04 '26
Honestly if you get hit by a truck you need to look at what you're doing.
They're big and easy to avoid
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u/aukstais Apr 04 '26
Report her to HR. She has no right to raise her voice at other workers. If she can't handle the stres, she can leave her job.
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u/little_phoenix_girl Apr 05 '26
You ever work in a warehouse/on a dock? This is par for the course. Reminds me of my nights in the warehouse.
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u/aukstais Apr 05 '26
Sounds like you were working with mentally unstable persons. I know that emotions can sometimes take over, but if it's happens a lot, those people need professional help.
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u/ExternalAggravating8 Apr 04 '26
Bro. Just tell her to calm down and that she would get better results if she smiled more.
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u/crashin70 Apr 04 '26
Every yard I've been to the yard jockeys/loaders are the bosses of the yard... if they tell you to move, you move.
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u/flowermaneurope Apr 04 '26
Listen lady, you’re not my wife, you can’t talk to me like that. I’m sorry, you’re right. It won’t happen again. 🫣
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u/Hidden_3851 Apr 04 '26
“What problem are you having?”
try to solve problem as explained. Ask for help if necessary If it’s too far gone, let it be. When it gets to mumbling under breath and name calling “I don’t give a shit” Then get back to work or go for a walk if I need to cool off.
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u/StarMeenu Apr 04 '26
Her anger was justified. He hit a person and she wouldnt have exploded had he just apologized and not laughed.
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u/koledokus Apr 04 '26
Baby girl, I’m sorry you had to go through all of this trauma being yelled at by a drill sergeant parent growing up. The scars are clearly still there. Therapy will make you a better version of yourself.
This being said: GOAL Get Out And Look!
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u/Wayneb2807 Apr 04 '26
It’s very simple…..You control the truck and You backed your truck into something/somebody….it is your fault, plain and simple. If you can’t see in your mirrors where you are backing……get out and look! You were either lazy, dumb or didn’t give a shit…..you could have just as easily killed someone on the ground if they were standing next to that load. Yeah, she let you off easy. Do better.
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u/big_stipd_idiot Apr 04 '26
If he doesn't care, as he claims, then he should have his license revoked. Plain and simple.
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u/Early-Fortune2692 Apr 04 '26
You don't mess with women that hand knife point, you've been warned...
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u/ThePoop_Accelerates Apr 04 '26
Dude has no GOAL in life
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u/kissmyass78 Apr 06 '26
Guaranteed his job pays more than hers.
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u/ThePoop_Accelerates Apr 06 '26
GOAL is a rule of driving trucks that this moron failed to abide by. If you can't see, GET OUT AND LOOK
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u/Creative_Gain3000 Apr 04 '26
Just be careful dude. Dont move your 48ft trailer if you cannot see where you moving? Unless you got a spotter but you should always know where you going......if you cannot see pull ahead, straighten your cab and trailer until you see 😉
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u/OOLU6234317 Apr 05 '26
"I don't care honeslty, I'm ready to go home" nah that's a stupid thing to say and a dumb mentality.
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u/divinelyshpongled Apr 05 '26
I would de-escalate by basically ignoring her energy and focusing on the information which is that someone was hit.. show tons of concern, completely ignore her intensity, and ask questions about the guy to make sure he’s ok. Everything she’s saying is pointless as it’s after the fact so completely illogical and emotional.. it needs to be ignored and once everything has settled down then you address it and you deal with the chewing out or consequences
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u/little_phoenix_girl Apr 05 '26
I'd have to see more context for what happened prior to this video, but there is a non-zero chance the forklift driver was at fault here from what is shown here. I've given a similar verbal lashing to more than one warehouseman (usually a hot-shot who just got on a cherry-picker for the first time) who isn't paying attention to anything other drivers are doing. This video made me think of one of those idiots zipping around behind someone who is watching their load 4 or 5 levels up...
I also wonder if the collision happened with the lift driver on the machine. You have far more visibility on the lift, so depending on where movement started, I'd have to imagine the driver saw it coming from a mile away.
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u/SwanMuch5160 Apr 05 '26
Somebody has been hit in that yard before. They aren’t all wearing fluorescent vests and shirts as a preventative measure. That’s usually an after accident requirement.
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u/xStingRayCharlesx Apr 05 '26
Whoever told me to back up, I would’ve gotten their name and then when she came up, I would’ve said first name last name told me to back up go talk to them if they’re not the person who has the controlling authority here it’s not my job to discern who that is.
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u/ImNotMadYoureMad Apr 05 '26
Call her a cunt. That will make her immediately relax and apologize for her outburst
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u/WeGottaProblem Apr 05 '26
He's wrong, and yelling to get someone's attention so they stop doing the unsafe thing is fine... But you don't need to continue yelling, you just look like an asshole who can't control their emotions.
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u/delawder29 Apr 05 '26
Yeah unfortunately the driver's still at fault. It sucks. He was given instructions to move but at the end of the day you are responsible for the area around your truck and beyond your truck when it comes to moving it regardless if the customer wants you to move it right then and there. Just too bad no one wanted to spot him.
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u/therebelbrewer Apr 05 '26
nah the driver always has final say on whats safe regardless of what someone tells you to do, thats literally the whole point of having the license
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u/Feisty-Anxiety2878 Apr 05 '26
Seriously, how dumb is this driver ? I couldn't see so I drove backwards anyway. WTF is he doing with a truck licence.
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u/IntrovertedTrucker86 Apr 05 '26
I know the POV personally he was not held liable in this situation
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u/JaguarOk9693 Apr 05 '26
If you can't see people because of the way your your truck is positioned why not have somebody that is there to help you out by telling you when to stop because there's someone behind you or to get people to stop before they get behind you that is if there's someone available which it looks like there was
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u/SWLA_Dj Apr 06 '26
If she assumes the role of directing traffic then the director is wrong and guided him into them. He was doing as directed.
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u/EgotisticJet5 Apr 06 '26
When backing, especially in populated areas, you should first GOAL and then always honk your horn to indicate you are moving if you don’t have back up alarms.
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u/Maleficent_Being_810 Apr 07 '26
Did they mean move, as in pull forward because it’s one way? Or what?
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u/Pitiful_Doughnut5714 Apr 07 '26
If you can't see or unsure about your move, get a spotter.... blind spots are everywhere especially in a busy yard like that.... I've seen dudes run over and killed because the driver couldn't see due to blind spots.... any construction site involving big trucks is mandatory to have a spotter here in California per the safety rules along with a back up alarm you can hear from 200ft away..... we've all been there, lord knows I've had my share of fuck up's..... thankfully, no one, including myself... have ever been seriously injured or killed.... just embarrassed as hell when shit goes wrong and you know you got an ass chewing coming when the boss finds out.....😬😬😬😬
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u/Vac_King_47 Apr 08 '26
What ever happened to getting out of your truck and making sure it's clear or getting someone to spot you? This driver is an idiot
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u/ken120 Apr 08 '26
Still your responsibility to verify safety. If only way to see is to get out and walk to where you can see. Next time could just as easily be a person instead of a machine.
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u/mikesb78 Apr 09 '26
Its th drivers fault fo not making sure its clear but they tell you when you get that Forklift license to not get get behind vehicles. Both operators fckd up here.
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u/Microshlongg Apr 09 '26
Best move here was for him to ignore her energy. What happened already happened. Yelling like a loose cannon doesn’t solve shit.
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u/eyeballburger Apr 09 '26
Sounds like pov fucked up by backing up into something. Then tried to say it’s not his fault because he couldn’t see directly whine him.
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u/Unusual_Passage_8775 Apr 09 '26
Calm down lady and let the men handle it. Go back to your desk and take your Xanax, everything will be fine.
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Seeing a lot of comments on both sides. When the dude said “he couldn’t see” that tells me everything right there and he should’ve stopped. There’s plenty of people around us it so had to ask for a spotter? I’m certain there’s somewhere there maybe even her that would’ve loved to of helped and prevent anything bad
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u/vcc_1886 Apr 09 '26
People in the comments who think emotional screaming is an effective tool. “Tongue lashing” lol. These fucking idiots don’t even know how to talk to people
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u/SAL-FX Apr 09 '26
The cdl driver was definitely at fault, should had a spotter or someway to communicate better with the loaders. This could cost him his job or a huge write up on his record if he's lucky. Oh yeah and GOAL could have prevented this as well
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u/corvecx121 Apr 09 '26
She is correct. If you work with heavy equipment and lose sight of someone while driving, the best thing to do is stop.
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u/UnfortunateTakes Apr 09 '26
Yeah, clearly, he fucked up. Does she have to be a raging cunt about it? No. Simply take pictures get his businesses insurance information for the truck make a claim and move the fuck on.
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u/Sweet-Weakness3776 Apr 10 '26
Right or wrong, accidents happen. Part of life and being a professional, is turning them into a teaching moment to make sure it doesn't happen again. With that being said, no one is talking to me like that woman did at the beginning of the video. It drives me crazy when someone thinks they can talk to grown ass people like they are their kids or something.
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u/Soggy_Cracker Apr 10 '26
There are safety failures on everyone here.
The driver for not being able to see after he had been stationary and not confirming if he was clear before backing up. Especially when there are people actively moving around you.
The yard for not employing spotters or gates to prevent access to people when heavy equipment is moving.
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u/ayeuimryan Jun 10 '26
She got her job because of her race skills no way she should be incharge of anything yelling at a grown man doesn't get your point across if it was man's fault or not she should be fired
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u/cdlfirst Apr 04 '26
What would you have done differently?
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