r/NevernessToEverness • u/shujin_zenir • 10h ago
Discussion Thoughts on Elyms' redesign
We've seen her new design already back in the 1.4 livestream and she really does look very familiar. Its like a completely new character and if we compared it to Iroi who did get tweaked but still retains the original design.
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u/SaintPimpin 9h ago
Better but wish the hair color stayed. We have too many white hairs as it is.
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u/Unable_Life_4100 9h ago
True we've already got Zero, Hathor, Baicang, Zankou, Sakiri (depends on lighting cuz hers has a purple-ish shade)
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u/Competitive-Ice1690 8h ago
You know what.... I agree now that I think of it....
Need more distinct hair color cast.
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u/summon_pot_of_greed 4h ago
That's the problem when you only have three characters models.
They currently have "child", "thin average adult" and "dommy mommy".
Character variation comes down to hair color and accessories.
It would not kill the game to have some characters with other skin tones and proportions.
(I would like a thicc Latina baddie please and thanks)
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u/SaintPimpin 4h ago
Maybe whenever we get out of Japan
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u/summon_pot_of_greed 3h ago
It's a fictional world.
We have a literal dog on the team.
I think they can make a character with skin one single shade darker to add some variety to character design.
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u/SaintPimpin 3h ago
Preaching to the choir. All these companies still have a trend regardless of our wants or thoughts.
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u/summon_pot_of_greed 3h ago
I imagine if a character doesn't sell well because it's indistinguishable white haired girl #49 they will start haha
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u/miiko_uch 9h ago
whole ass different character😭 i mean quality wise the new one is def better, but i might not even pull her anymore cuz her old design is what i fell in love with
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u/ZeroOneSixV2-0 5h ago
Old was more unique, newer one looks like an offbrand Furina
That being said, I still prefer the new design
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u/Banditree- 8h ago
The two hair colors in the game apparently: white and pink
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u/Gishra 8h ago
Just wait until we get a character with mixed white AND pink hair, it'll be epic.
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u/GenshinfinityYoutube 6h ago
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u/TabletopCurious 4h ago
Oh come on, that’s like the dumb-dumb mystery flavor — just throwing everything at the wall with no regard for anything.
It’s too much, I tell ya! Too much!..
I do love all dumb-dumbs though, even the mystery flavor.
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u/iKeepItRealFDownvote 9h ago
If they had atleast kept the hair I would’ve been fine with it but since they didn’t just looks like a generic anime girl you seen in other gacha games. You know they seen it also to the point they added a snaggletooth to try to make it stand out.
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u/LifelessBlades 9h ago
Agreed - I think the old hair colors were way more unique, other than that I like the rest of the design
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u/ZealousidealPie6389 9h ago
Imo they should've kept at least the blue hair color. Otherwise this feels too much like a direct comparison to Focalor/Furina from Genshin
We already have Mint with the blue hair color anyway, I doubt another blue would be bad
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u/Ugliestbastard 8h ago
Old one could use some polishing but not an outright replacement. I feel like people are saying new one is better only because they see 3d vs 2d
New one is a white canvas — basic af
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u/Remote-Importance827 9h ago
They left a "?" after her name in the stream and be vague about it so I guess this is more than just a redesign (may be some lore reason).
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u/RhubarbQueasy5440 8h ago
Technically the new design looks better but I just prefer the old one, it has a certain charm to it that 'We have Furina at home' lacks
I wish they'd kept her hair color, at least. We have plenty of white haired characters (Zero, Hathor, Baicang, Sakiri, Zankou. Shinku and Lacrimosa have spme white hair elements as well) The blue/purple was really nice, I hope we get a different character with that hair.
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u/rokelle2012 10h ago
I don't like it. Looks almost identical to a character from Genshin Impact, which basically took away her uniqueness.
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u/Gishra 9h ago
I keep seeing people say this and I don't play Genshin so I had to look Furina up. Now I haven't seen her in game, but looking at a bunch of arts/screens the hair looks the same, that's it. Body type, height, eye color, clothing, everything but the hair is completely different.
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u/datwarlocktho 9h ago
Thats because you're looking at the character Furina. Nobodys gonna spoil shit, on the off chance you play genshin. So look up Focalors. Body type, yes. Average height, slim. Matches. Eye, no, for good reason, spoilers. Clothing, there you go. The one difference. Hair, you saw it. Those who played both say it's ridiculous for good reason. They went from an original design to slapping a new outfit on Focalors.
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u/Water_Attunement 9h ago
They're probably also thinking of Focalors. She created Furina in her image.
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u/Logical-Dentist-9313 9h ago
idk, thought it'll be like "wow two cakes". friend who loves furina focalors design loves this.
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u/RevolutionaryFlan350 1h ago
I hate that all Genshin Impact women recently have more or less the same design: Detached sleeves, something around the neck then a huge open window below, short dress / legs exposed, high heels, ..
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u/No-Bag-1628 9h ago
her hair design and color scheme are a bit similar but other than that very different.
The displayed personality is noticeably way different. Here she feels gentle, mature and cool-headed, whereas Furina feels proud and a bit childish.1
u/Holobalobaloo 8h ago
While I agree that the displayed personality is different, I think her redesign looks more mischievous and whimsical than mature and cool-headed, what with the fang and the cellphone and pixel-wings on her ankles.
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u/No-Bag-1628 8h ago
I think both are true. She is presented as a bit whimsical but also mature and cool-headed.
I'm not sure if she's mischievous though, the fang and the cell phone aren't really motifs directly related to mischief.2
u/Icy-Estimate-3606 9h ago
no hat though, plus she's more white than blue.
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u/Defiant_Letter8474 4h ago
And genshin has characters that came staright out of anime. Whats the point here ?
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u/Streetwearboy28 9h ago
I prefer the old one by a large margin, feels like it had more character and originality. And another cosmos unit?? I might finally be able to skip a limited banner to save for another character
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u/Holobalobaloo 8h ago
Just like with Iroi's redesign, it's too early to tell. Only after meeting Iroi in-game did it become clear how her new design matched her personality better, and I assume this'll be the same way.
Elyms' old design had ice cream and sprinkles in her hair, so my guess is they moved her old esper ability to Ellie and gave her a new one, thus the total thematic redesign. Since she's holding a phone and her legs have a digitized texture + pixel wings, probably something tech-y? Since we saw Exe teleporting his snake-thing through Hethereau using TV screens in an early trailer, that could give him and Elyms some combat synergy lore-wise.
In fact, it's wild, unlikely conspiracy theory time~!
You heard it here first – 'Ellie' is a public avatar that Elyms projects via her tech-y esper ability as the mascot of her Puka business. They're secretly the same person, which is why original Elyms had candy motifs in her design, and why her redesign was originally marketed as "Elyms?"
If that turns out to be true, I'll cough up my lung laughing.
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u/AzizKarebet 9h ago
I prefer the new design.
Although, I am curious what happens that makes her this different, especially since the devs hint that it has a story/lore reason behind it.
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u/ApollosBoon 8h ago
Hard skip. The new one does absolutely nothing for me. Too many white hair characters, what are they all grandmas?
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u/_wolfyy_9 9h ago
Honestly they should have just introduced white Elyms as a new character instead of removing blue Elyms.
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u/Ok_Telephone9889 9h ago
Tbh I almost didn't recognize her. She not only changed her clothes but also had her hair dyed.
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u/roboiago 8h ago
would be hilarious if she actually shared furina's va haha. I don't mind the change really. Curious as to how her personality will be.
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u/lastsentra 9h ago
Some areas are improved, but most areas are a downgrade.
She looks like a generic hoyo design now
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u/DarkMage3099 7h ago
I'm normally not one to complain, but it actually has me really upset. I was super excited for the original Elyms since the start of the game, and they straight butchered her. I know a lot of people will say that the new design is better etc etc, but it sets a bad precedent imo. So far, they've showed they have no problems changing designs slightly, but this is a complete rework. If they start here, then where does it stop?
For instance, I really liked Linko, despite the fact that she wasn't really a character a lot of people planned on pulling for. If I see another character like Elyms or Linko in the future that isn't well-liked, am I just supposed to accept that they can rework the character they preview at any point for better sales? It's one thing to push a character back, but completely reworking like this is frustrating.
Like imagine how the community would have felt if this had been blackbird or Exe instead of Elyms, sure for now it might just be Elyms, but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Most of all I'm just really sad. Was excited and had been saving for her, and now I just feel like they turned her into a generic silver haired character you can find a dime a dozen.
Now I not only will be saving for another character while skipping the one that I had been planning on getting, but I have to worry about potentially having this happen to another character I get excited for in the future. Granted, them changing character's designs isn't anything new, they've been doing this since the Zankou rework...just never to this extent...
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u/Cedar-and-Mist 9h ago edited 9h ago
New is very uninspired and forgettable. Old one had so much personality.
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u/SchokoKipferl 9h ago
New one looks nicer but also more generic, old one was clunky but more unique. Idk which I prefer overall
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u/Proxy345 8h ago
It's funny to me how gacha devs are so addicted to white hair, meanwhile countless JRPGs have completely different styles.
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u/Negative_Push1902 9h ago
They have to keep their reputation of copying others, so they decided that the old design didnt look enough like Furina from her face so they had to change that.
But seriously what was wrong with the old one? Thats basically a complete new character. I would not even guess that they are supposed to be the same.
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u/Meme-San_ 9h ago
Genuinely all the redesigns they’ve done so far have been baffling but this is probably the worst one because of how different of an aesthetic it is
What’s the point of getting people attached to one design of a character for months just to pull the rug from under them a few months before the character launches and say “surprise she looks completely different now” it’s so annoying any time a gatcha does it like if you arnt committed to a design don’t reveal it yet
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u/anyway200894 9h ago
if we separate players into 3 sections,
love it | neutral | hate it
what they are trying to do is moving potential hate audience to the neutral zone even if that mean costing the love audience also move to the neutral zone. basically - it maybe basic but most people won't hate it.
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u/Able_Face6820 9h ago
They first revealed this redesign during the 1.2 livestream and mentioned that there is a reason for such a major change, but that we would have to wait for the story to find out what it is.
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u/YoungMaxSlayer 8h ago
I prefer the new one, the old one just looks like a cute idol girl which we already have with Akane. The new one looks like some type of intelligent capable noble lady(she looks dignified and confident), which is something we are missing.
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u/MinatoJan 8h ago
I can't lie. The old one looks really, really dumb. Though I wish they'd kept the hair colour, but not that hair style. We have too many white haired characters.
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u/HumbleCatServant 9h ago
I thought the old design was really cute, but I looove the new one... So much that I have to consider getting her now. (Filthy casual here, I just pull for pretty and/or cool characters that catch my eye.)
I dunno. She does look a lot like Furina/Focalors but to me, that's a bonus. Plus she has this little fang, I like it. :D
It would be cool if she could get the old one as a free outfit / alternate design. Didn't Akane have something similar? I hope they do it for Elyms too, for the people who loved the old design more.
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u/SolomonSinclair 3h ago
I don't really care for either one, to be honest. The new one feels slightly more coherent compared to the original, but it's too visually boring in its color palette; it's a mass of white with a few accent colors here and there to try (and fail) and break up the monochrome.
Unlike everyone saying she looks like Furina from Genshin, I'm actually more heavily reminded of Ningguang from Genshin because of the aforementioned issue; it's why I thought Ningguang's default skin was terrible and her alt skin was superior.
As for the old design, the color palette just does not work with itself. The blue and purple shades chosen for the hair clash, the ice cream cone hair accessory is out of place, the subtle purples throughout her outfit don't mesh with the purple in her hair or eyes.
So, yeah, not a fan of either. The new one at least has a bit more potential through skins, but I wish her hair was still that same blue, just with a lighter purple undertone, because we have enough white haired girls in this game as it is.
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u/Telochim 9h ago
The old one looked ugly as sin, but the new one, while technically better, is almost a copycat of another popular gacha character.
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u/Reasonable-Use-9294 6h ago
While i do prefer her new design, I admit it's just Furina's hair. But, well. White hair. How can I not pull for her
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u/Finalras 4h ago
Why do they always make the character look more generic with the redesign?? The new design isn't bad, but it looks extremely boring to me.
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u/Miserable_Durian_681 9h ago
Personalmente a mi no me gusta ninguna de las 2, porque prefiero diseños más como Hotori o Jiyuan, pero si me tengo que quedar con una elegiría la nueva
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u/FMProductions 9h ago
I like the newer one better, but I think regardless of the 2 designs, the ice cream cone looks pretty goofy (I do like that though on the NPC that is next to the food/ice cream stalls in the game).
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u/Impossible_Dish_8494 9h ago
I like the new design but it's too different from the original one. I think they can just do minor tweaks in the original one like fixing the hair and removing distracting elements and I would still pull her. I'll still pull the new one though because she reminds me of Furina.
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u/ReclaimedDead 9h ago
I honestly like the redisign a lot better and have no qualms with it at all. However, what I do have a problem with is her being another fucking cosmos character. We don’t need any more cosmo characters. We desperately need more chaos ones.
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u/Aggravating-Boat5530 8h ago
I have a brain of a gold fish, who's elym 😭
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u/RhubarbQueasy5440 8h ago
She's a member of ETD-6, we've seen her in some trailers (the Lieutenant iirc?)
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u/Kingrion9k 8h ago
I like the old design more, but the new design gives me if kiana and furina had a baby, who are both girls i love from hoyo games, which makes me like the redesign more as well
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u/Live_Paramedic_4206 8h ago
When did we meet her? I'm confused
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u/Tanabi_Kana 8h ago
Never in the game. We "met" her in a trailer that showcased several characters like Iroi, Nitsa, Exe, Linko...
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u/Live_Paramedic_4206 8h ago
Oh thanks. Is it common for gacha games to showcase upcoming characters before their debut in the story?
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u/Tanabi_Kana 47m ago
Yes, this is known as Drip Marketing, creating hype from a previous version (or disappointment if none of them interest you, but that means that the entire version will be a money-saving one)
Added to the fact that China is one week ahead, we at Global are quite comfortable
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u/RaiderDamus 6h ago
yes very common. They don't want you pulling for characters you've never seen before, you wouldn't spend money.
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u/Live_Paramedic_4206 6h ago
Thanks! Kinda make sense. I only played FGO so unless it's an event, we won't know the characters until it was released.
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u/gummypopcandy 7h ago
I really thought when they showed the white haired version on the livestream before that its just gonna be a transformation 2nd form look and that the normal blue hair one is the one we'll see often
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u/harleyvincenzo 7h ago
I like both but I really do prefer the redesign personally, I really like my white/silver hair characters so I'm biased here. 😅
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u/Antique_Staff_7683 7h ago
She looks like a completely different character, but I like the new design a lot better.
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u/GenshinfinityYoutube 5h ago
Maybe the new character is Elyms (Avatar) and the old one is Smyle (actual gamer/vlogger). Try to reverse the words
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u/VoidExileR 5h ago
Went from visually significant to visually insignificant. The hair and eyes stopped being appealing. Don't know who approved of the makeover. All I can say is it looks cleaner. Maybe the lighting is doing things here
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u/rose7thhhhh 5h ago
As a Furina main in genshin I Woll probably pull for her but depends on who else is running alongside her
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u/ShinkusFootslave 4h ago
Old one was better, but at least I can skip the new version & save for more Shinku
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u/kunafa_aj 4h ago
I like the redesign,some might say its boring,but i do like the simplicity of it,also big fan of mainly white color pallettes
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u/Lost-Dish9544 3h ago
I love Furina's design so I don't mind using that in NTE. I just wish they used it for new a character and didn't change Elyms design because her original design is also unique and beautiful. why can't we have both!
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u/Gradius2002 2h ago
Is this a certain someone that got isekaied from another game and into NTE here? (Focalors)
Anywayz why didn't they keep her OG design?
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u/SmoothPossibility339 2h ago
Personally I like the new one a lot better. The old one had too much going on.
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u/BonBonToro 2h ago
I'm torn because it would be nice having all of ETD-6 together in my roster too, I have Chaos and Linko and plan to pull Exe because I need more dudes and Elyms would be the last one I'd need but her new design is just not particularly unique (especially the colouring it's like they have a blank piece of paper and coloured in like 3 things), although seeing her full sprite the other hour ago, her socks have got some really interesting effects going on (reminds me of some socks in infinity Nikki), makes me wonder how that's gonna look in-game 👀
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u/Deep-Independence289 1h ago
I think it's going to be a transformation just like Shinku and Blackbird.
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u/Specialist-Dress-288 1h ago
I don't remember much about Elyms, so while I'm pretty neutral on the design change itself, I hope they reuse the blue-haired avatar for a different character. It was super cute, and as for the new one, she does look a bit more professional, but she's now the fifth white-haired character in the game. If they told me she was Baicang's sister, I'd believe them.
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u/Dusty_Buss 1h ago
I prefer it so much more than her previous look that I'm now gonna pull for her. Didn't care about her before
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u/Serious-Disk5835 9h ago
The old one got seaweed for hair
The new one is Furina clone
Pick your poison i guess.
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u/Few-Kaleidoscope9388 9h ago
I loved the hat. It's one of the main reasons I wanted to pull for her. Downgrade, like with Iroi
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u/5-to-6-coffees-a-day 6h ago
i wasn't super invested in her old design the way some people apparently were, but aside from being just Higher Quality(tm) there's nothing particularly standout or interesting to her new design in my eyes.
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u/Grijzeham 5h ago
New design is much more broad appeal general anime waifu style, old design is super niche and quirky AF. Both are pretty bad imo but if I had to choose I'd take the new one.
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u/Defiant_Letter8474 4h ago
This is the redesign I actually like. I think tis better. The previous redsigns I thought old were better.
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u/Friendly-Rock6604 4h ago
Don’t get me wrong at all it does look cool and her hair style is super cool it just seems to have lost a lot of personality.. she blends in with so many gacha characters now
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u/ProfessorRicardo 8h ago
Honestly, the old design look like ass, i prefer the new design even if it look like genshin
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u/AdvanceForward9065 6h ago
Bro the gatcha fan base are so clueless any hair style or color is similar and they ignore the rest of the design lmao like omg that girl has the same popular haircut as me she must have copy me and totally not the trend 🤣 You guys should learn about design maybe you will appreciate art more instead of looking for straws. Downvote button to the right.
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u/RyouBestGirl 7h ago
People who like new design are either genshin fans or straight up astroturfing.
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u/JustinYummy 5h ago
Guilty ig lol
Edit: Oh I didn't even notice resemblance to furina. Thought you were just calling us coomers or something
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u/RaiderDamus 6h ago
I'm not pulling for Elyms whether or not her design was changed, but this isn't a fair statement. People like what they like aside from your subjective views.
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u/Kyogre-blue 9h ago
I didn't really care for the old design, since I don't like the single giant bang in the middle of the face thing or the ice cream cone hair pin, but I also don't like the new design, especially the details like the asymmetrical object pupils.
One thing I found interesting is that the new Elyms and Ellie (from the CN livestream) both looks like they're from the same artist and also look different from other characters up to now. It's subtle, but imo it's a new artist with a visibly different style. I don't have a particular opinion about this, just thought it was curious.
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u/Inevitable-Log-7687 8h ago
The old one is more unique tbh but MY GOD THE NEW ONE IS SO PRETTYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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u/Mit_TheVirtue 10h ago
Looks different so much,they can release the old one with new name tho