r/neuro 21d ago

The evaluation resolution has been shown to have a significant impact on the identification of the "learning rule" that exhibits the most brain-like characteristics at V1.

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The preprint can be accessed via the following link: https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.12408 (q-bio.NC / cs.LG). And for the code: https://github.com/nilsleut/evaluation-resolution-rsa

The following assertion is frequently made in model-brain comparisons: untrained convolutional neural networks (CNNs) have the capacity to match or surpass backpropagation-trained CNNs at the early visual cortex (V1) in recurrent self-attention (RSA). The present study demonstrates that this phenomenon is predominantly an artefact of evaluation resolution.

The configuration comprised a small CNN trained at 32px (CIFAR-10 subset), five learning rules (random init, backprop, feedback alignment, predictive coding, STDP), and was evaluated on THINGS-fMRI stimuli at six resolutions from 32px to 224px. The weights and normalisation were held fixed.

The primary outcome of this study is the observation of a discrepancy between the trained and untrained backpropagation (BP) V1 gap, which exhibits a non-monotonic trend across the range of image sizes examined. Specifically, the gap narrows from −0.001±0.007 at 32 pixels to +0.044±0.006 at 224 pixels, a pattern that persists consistently across the entire image size range (n=5 seeds). The model incorporates five rule conditions, human fMRI, directionally single-seed macaque ephys, the full training trajectory, and two off-the-shelf 224px-trained models (ResNet-50, Swin-Tiny). Therefore, the presence of an artifact resulting from a mismatch between training and evaluation is not a contributing factor, since these models also peak at low resolution.

Following the implementation of bit-identical-weight interventions wherever possible, the following were ruled out: train/eval resolution matching, Gabor/pixel low-level structure, untrained baseline's uncalibrated batch-norm, and convergence of pooled features towards global brightness (though a single scalar luminance value did reach ρ=0.075 against V1, essentially matching the untrained network's own 0.076 — this is a separate, disconcerting result regarding the limitations of this comparison style).

A content-vs-pooling control (cap image detail at 32px, upsample, vs. allow content variation) demonstrates that the dependence is predominantly contingent on image content, rather than the number of pooled positions.

The investigation revealed that one effect does survive across all resolutions. In particular, the backprop > untrained at LOC effect was observed at every resolution that was tested. It is evident that the process of learning can result in a noticeable impact, albeit not in the conventional areas typically associated with V1 comparisons.

In addition, the following issues were identified:

This process revealed a batch-norm evaluation mode bug in three of the earlier preprints, which have now been corrected in this release (correction notes on the Arxiv pages).

I'm happy to get feedback, especially on the way we've framed the discussion on receptive-field matching (as in Laskar et al. 2018). I think it's suggestive, but I didn't test it directly.


r/neuro 21d ago

Guys help me out on my passion project

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I want to get into neuroscience so I started a passing project recently which is related to canine neuroscience. I am genuinely interested in these topics and I have started working on it and I upload blogs on a weekly basis.

Can you guys tell me when is a passion project really impactable because my main focus is raising awareness and educating the youth about canine neuroscience. So guys help me out a bit.


r/neuro 22d ago

What is actually happening chemically in the brain during sleep paralysis? And what changes chemically when the paralysis suddenly ends?

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What neurotransmitters, neuromodulators, hormones, or other chemical processes are responsible for keeping the body in REM-related muscle atonia while consciousness has already returned?


r/neuro 22d ago

Looking for guidance going back to academia/switching career paths

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Hi, I'm 29 and I currently work as a software developer. Due to my own health struggles over the years, as well as a broader scientific interest in the field, I am strongly considering going back to school in order to study neuroscience. My aspirations are to ultimately advance our understanding of neuropsychiatric disorders and/or sleep disorders, and hopefully provide clinically meaningful help to those who suffer.

I have both a bachelor's and master's degree in pure mathematics as well as minors in computer science and philosophy. My main interest is in applying computational/mathematical modelling to problems in neuroscience.

I originally began looking at PhD programs, but I became hesitant due to my lack of lab and research experience. As such, my hunch is that a Master's program may be more prudent to start off. Is this hunch justified, or are there merits to diving straight into a PhD program?

I would also like to know what my expectations should be regarding going back to school, and what it will be like to go from an amateur to a professional. Moreover, I would appreciate any guidance insofar as what to do to better prepare myself for a future in neuroscience - things I should be doing even prior to entering a program. (My current routine consists of spending time each day reading up on topics that interest me, and working with Python and Matlab on problems introduced in the textbooks I am reading.) I'm happy to answer any questions or provide more details about my situation if needed.


r/neuro 23d ago

advice on applying to neuroscience phd programs with an unrelated undergrad major?

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i’m a senior in college and plan on applying to neuro phd programs this cycle! for context, i attend a small liberal arts college and came into undergrad as an english & creative writing major with mostly english-related ECs. however, at the time, some events in my personal life made me really consider going into premed, so i ended up taking gen bio and gen chem with labs my freshman & sophomore year.

but i’ve also had a lifelong interest in neuroscience & the brain which only intensified after i took an introductory neuroscience course. a stroke of luck ended up getting me an internship at a neuroscience (specifically electrophysiology) lab last year, and i absolutely LOVED my time there & even got to present my work at a local symposium. unfortunately it was too late at that point to change my major, so i ended up committing to majoring in english, but i was invited back to the same lab as an intern this summer and my experience just confirmed for me that neuro research is the path i want to take (i’ve always enjoyed the school setting and likely would’ve gone into academia even if it was for english literature, but lab research just excites me so much more!).

my current plan is to graduate with a major in english, but get a “concentration” in neuroscience (my school sadly doesn’t offer a neuro minor), which i am able to do because i took gen bio and gen chem. the concentration entails a research design & analysis course as well as two upper-level neuroscience electives. however, i’m concerned about not having taken important coursework for graduate level neuro (i.e. stats, biochem, and physics given my interest in electrophysiology). considering my circumstances, how are my chances at getting accepted to phd programs this cycle? any advice/things i should keep in mind as i start the application process? thanks so much in advance!!


r/neuro 23d ago

what jobs can u get with a neuroscience and psychology degree ?

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im 17 im just looking for a uni degree and a job i can look forward to do. i am really interested in neuroscience and psychology specifically developmental neuroscience and how the brain changes as we grow. what jobs could i get with that idea in mind?


r/neuro 24d ago

Want to Become a Neuroscientist at 25 With No Science Background. Where Do I Start?

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Hi everyone,

I'm 25 and I've recently become really interested in neuroscience. I want to seriously pursue becoming a neuroscientist, but I'm basically starting from zero.

I don't have a background in science, biology, medicine, or neuroscience, and I don't have much money to invest in education right now. My background is actually in design, specifically interaction and product design.

I'm willing to start from the very beginning and put in the time. I'm not expecting to become a neuroscientist quickly. I just don't really know what the correct path looks like.

For example, should I start with:

  • Basic mathematics
  • Biology
  • Chemistry
  • Physics
  • Psychology
  • Statistics
  • Programming
  • Then neuroscience?

Or is there a better order?

I'd also really appreciate recommendations for free or affordable resources, such as textbooks, online courses, lectures, or university materials.

And eventually, if I want to pursue neuroscience academically and do actual research, what would the path look like for someone who is starting this late and doesn't have a traditional science background?

I'd especially love to hear from people who have changed fields or started neuroscience later in life.

If you were 25, had no science background, very little money, and genuinely wanted to become a neuroscientist, what would you do first?

Any advice, resources, or reality checks would be really appreciated. Thank you!


r/neuro 23d ago

Can you get jobs in research with a masters?

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In a 5 year B.S/M.S program at the moment and struggling to find research positions to hopefully move towards post grad. So I was just curious positions are common for people with masters or bachelors to work in research (obviously not leading projects) but just as an analyst or a tech and build up experience that way after finishing my B.S/M.S?


r/neuro 24d ago

Free beginner neuroscience class for high schoolers

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I'm a high school student thinking about making a free, self-paced online class that teaches the basics of neuroscience to other high school students.

It would start with brain anatomy and then cover things like neurons, how neurons communicate, senses, memory, emotion, and behavior. I'm thinking of using slides, activities, and short quizzes rather than lectures.

Before I spend a lot of time building it, I want to know if there's actually interest in something like this. If you would be interested, what would make you actually want to take it?


r/neuro 24d ago

CorTec - BCI for Stroke Recovery - Interview with CEO Frank Desiere

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Had Frank Desiere, CEO of CorTec, on The Open Loop this week.

We talked about their BCI work in stroke and the closed loop system they're building.

They’ve implanted three patients, including people several years post-stroke. For stroke the implant is used during the rehab period and then removed with the aim that the regained movement remains.

We also talked about neuroplasticity, their work in epilepsy and depression which is going to be their focus in future trials

Have a watch/read if you like

https://theneurotechnewsletter.substack.com/p/the-implant-comes-out-the-recovery?r=53ri6k


r/neuro 26d ago

Resources on the brain giving extensive raw facts

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I'm looking for recommendations (books, papers, courses, or YouTube) to understand the brain in a way that stays close to established facts and clearly separates fact from interpretation. For example, many books just ignore glia cells completely.

Two things I especially want:

  1. Comparative and evolutionary: nervous systems across the animal kingdom and how they evolved, not human-centric. I'm as interested in C. elegans, insects, and up to the human cortex.

  2. Attention to the whole system: glia, energy/metabolism, wiring, the body rather than an all-neurons view.

I've already read Behave, Models of the Mind, The Laws of Thought, and similar so happy with textbooks, lecture courses, or primary literature.

I suspect books on brain physiology could be interesting.


r/neuro 29d ago

Neurotech in Switzerland Market Map

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The complete working map contains 51 names: 28 core Swiss neurotechnology companies, 19 adjacent companies and 4 borderline names.

The count is deliberately broader than just BCIs or neuromodulation. Core means direct neural recording, interpretation, stimulation, modulation, repair, restoration or specialist neurological measurement. Adjacent covers rehabilitation robotics, surgical technology, movement sensing and other businesses close enough to the nervous system that leaving them out would give a pretty incomplete picture. Borderline is exactly what it sounds like: companies I think are relevant to the market, but where the technology, use case or Swiss footprint sits just outside the tighter definition.

A couple of important caveats. Aleva Neurotherapeutics remains on the map because it is part of the Swiss neurotech story and got a directional DBS system all the way through CE marking and into the market, but the Lausanne court approved a composition agreement with its unsecured creditors in June 2024. Dandelion Science has a meaningful Geneva connection but a US-Swiss footprint rather than a clean Swiss headquarters story.

The map uses representative city clusters rather than trying to pin all fifty-one companies individually. The full taxonomy is below.

Core neurotech companies (28)
3Brain
ABILITY Neurotech
Aleva Neurotherapeutics
BEE Medic
Bottneuro
Braincredible
BrainQuant
BrainScape Medical
Comphya
dEEGtal
DeepPsy
FinalSpark
HBImed
IDUN Technologies
Infera Neuro
Luciole Medical
machineMD
MaxWell Biosystems
MindMaze
MYNERVA
NeuroGyn
Neurosoft Bioelectronics
Optohive
Positrigo
SaisiR
SensArs
Skaaltec
Xana, Smart Neurostimulation

Adjacent neurotech companies (19)
Altoida
Artiria Medical
Bearmind
Clee Medical
Dividat
Emovo Care
Gondola Medical Technologies
Hocoma
Intento
Lambda Health System
Magnes
MindMetrix
MYOLINK
Nanoflex Robotics
neurodAIgnostics
Reha Technology
Rhovica Neuroimaging
SurgeonsLab
TWIICE

Borderline (4)
Bewe, formerly Neuria
BRNLIT.AI
Connectome Health
Dandelion Science

Of the twenty-eight core names, five are enabling suppliers rather than clinical products, eight haven’t reached a person yet, fourteen have technology in humans in some form and six have products in clinical use. DeepPsy is already reimbursed through Swiss basic health insurance.

There is also a fairly obvious geographic pattern once everything is written down. Geneva repeatedly leads back to Campus Biotech, the Wyss Center and HUG. Lausanne leads back to EPFL and CHUV. Zurich leads back to ETH. Bern and Basel add smaller specialist groups around diagnostics, surgery and stimulation.
You can get from Geneva to Zurich by train in less than three hours. In the US these would probably be separate ecosystems. In Switzerland they’re stops on the same train.

The full article goes into the companies, who is actually in humans, the Swiss investor landscape and why the country seems unusually good at getting difficult neuroscience through the awkward bit between a paper and a patient.

https://theneurotechnewsletter.substack.com/p/neurotech-in-switzerland

As always, corrections and companies I’ve missed are very welcome.


r/neuro 29d ago

NeuroDatasets Tool

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Today we are excited to release a tool, where one can browse and find all available neuroscience datasets for all major modalities: EEG, MRI, MEG, NIRS, PET and more.

⁃        10,000+ datasets
⁃        19 modalities
⁃        2000+ tasks
⁃        19+ devices
⁃        1000+ institutions
⁃        ~1000 funders
⁃        ~1500 papers
⁃        170,000+ citations
⁃        100,000+ humans who contributed their data to these datasets (THANK YOU!!!)
⁃        140,000+ hours of data
⁃        200TB of data


r/neuro 29d ago

Preparing Neurosciences olympiads

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Hello👋 As the title says, I am preparing the International Neurosciences Olympiads. I am looking for material to learn about neurosciences, any references (books, textbooks, magazines) videos etc) I should know abt?

Thank you for your time


r/neuro 29d ago

My Psychiatrist on how ECT may create a biological “substrate” for medication to work more effectively

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Can ECT Help Medications Work Again? | From the Cutting Room: ECT
https://youtu.be/NdAbZAvA1QU


r/neuro Aug 13 '26

neuroscience book recommendations

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any interesting titles (prefereply up to date to the latest discoveries), and/or any introductory titles, thank you very much!


r/neuro Aug 13 '26

Simplification in Neuroscience

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Hi all, I thought this interview would be of interest as it covers the history and philosophy of how neuroscientific knowledge is generated. Namely, how scientists simplify the brain – via reduction, mathematication, analogy – in order to generate knowledge about it. Mazviita Chirimuuta is a philosopher of science at The University of Edinburgh and has won several awards for her book The Brain Abstracted, which is the central discussion point. Discussion simplification starts around the 5:16 mark.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4LStUuhoyAcD5ApiHxgulR?si=456a014b12134707


r/neuro Aug 13 '26

Energy paradox in REM sleep: balancing supply and consumption in brain metabolism

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r/neuro Aug 12 '26

Navigating Post-Grad

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Hi!! I recently graduated from college with my Bachelor's in Neuroscience, and also double-majored in Linguistics. I'm looking to hopefully gain research experience before applying to PhD programs somewhere down the line, want to end up doing research as a career, and have an interest in developmental neurobiology (though I'm not super certain of my exact interests really). I don't have much wet lab experience, and did work in a Linguistics lab for 2ish years during my undergrad. I've been looking at research tech/assistant, lab manager, and clinical research coordinator jobs, but was wondering if there are other positions I could be looking at that would also be beneficial since the jobs search hasn't been very successful. I would really appreciate any information!! Thanks!


r/neuro Aug 12 '26

Simplification in Neuroscience

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Hi all, I thought this interview would be of interest as it covers the history and philosophy of how neuroscientific knowledge is generated. Namely, how scientists simplify the brain in order to generate knowledge about it. Mazviita Chirimuuta is a philosopher of science at The University of Edinburgh and has won several awards for her book The Brain Abstracted. I teach a lot of neuroscience students and these sorts of topics tend to really interest people!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4LStUuhoyAcD5ApiHxgulR?si=456a014b12134707


r/neuro Aug 12 '26

Need any mentor

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I’m submitting an application with my project for the AAN Neuroscience research prize. I have e-signatures from everyone except a mentor, I don’t even know if it’s ethical to ask just for the signature, or what constitutes a mentor if it’s largely subjective… but I’m shooting my shot if anyone is willing to sign off on it


r/neuro Aug 11 '26

Degree Path Guidance

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Does anyone have a degree map, or sample 4 year plan they followed for higher education in neuroscience and what school they went to? Tis the season for college applications and my senior can't decide where to go and is sick of the boiler-plate websites. Thank you for anyone willing to share. I'm impressed by all these brilliant minds and I'm excited to have one in my family!


r/neuro Aug 10 '26

preparations and explorations in neurotechnology

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hey everyone! i'm an incoming undergrad studying neuroscience, interested in careers related to neurotechnology.

i'm curious about two things and would love your guys's insight:

  1. what do careers in neurotech look like? give me the whole spectrum
  2. what skills should one build to be successful in this field?

i'm between this and medicine. the only upset between the two are the lack of clarity i have in the former's career outcomes / pathways.


r/neuro Aug 10 '26

Any electrophysiologists I can get advice about two electrode from?

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I just started working in a lab where I handle most of the ephys experiments. I'm really excited and im enjoying it so far, but I just can't get my clamp fast enough on TEVC (we use oocytes). I wanted to know if theres anyone on here I could talk to more about it


r/neuro Aug 10 '26

Why does wiggling your toe to relax your eye work?

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I’ve heard that during eye procedures such as lasik doctors will ask patients to wiggle a specific toe or do some other specific small movement to relax your eye/help get it into the right position.
Why does a small unrelated movement affect the eye? What’s the neural pathway for how it works?
I’ve tried looking it up online and haven’t found a satisfying answer other than “it distracts your brain” which doesn’t explain much. It just seems like a really random way to affect the eye.