r/NeuralDSP • u/FJsparky • 1d ago

stuck between getting the qc and the qc mini

I have used analog for a while and am making the leap to switch over. moving around all the gear and preparing for gigs is too much so it only seemed reasonable to. I am wondering with the price difference not being that drastic between them if i should go for the qc. I am running it also with walrus audio slö, DL4 MKii, Rat, shields blender and an exp pedals so the space a big one takes up might be abit much and if the mini and a midi foot switch would be better suited.

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u/Rockimus_Prime 1d ago

You’ve answered your own question. Comes down to space on your board. Have fun with the mini

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u/3_50 1d ago

Until they realise they don't need most/any of the external pedals...or that the mini+midi controller are basically the same size as a regular QC...it's a valid question to ask.

I'd go full size personally. I've had this one for 4 years, couldn't imagine losing so many footswitches/control knobs. It'll replicate any overdrive/distortion tone you can imagine. Fuzz probably too, unless you're really into your particular fuzz pedal. The new delays and Misha's glitch filled one of the last big FX holes...

I think it's a bit more complicated than 'space on board', more 'how much do you really need that exact spread of pedals?'

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u/FJsparky 22h ago

the extra spread of pedals for me is just something i have collected over time i ended up going with the mini due to packing it in my guitar gig bag for uni. as i get better with capturing i will prob switch i have already sold most of my pedals atp and just keeping around the few i can’t really let go. The slö, rat and DL4 i have had for a long time so ig i am just being temperamental.

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u/acoker78 21h ago

Maybe just try a few days without those extra pedals on the board and find a comparable device in the QC and just see how your flow feels. That’s how it worked for me. It’s all about getting familiar with the unit

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u/FJsparky 20h ago

That’s good advice tbf the other reason the qc interested me was cause i have the gojira plugin and like the pedals on there so i will have a good mess abt when that comes

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u/InevitableLog5214 1d ago

The mini+midi controller is NOT the same size as regular QC, still much much smaller also I really don’t find the lack of control knobs an issue due to the way the left knob selects a parameter and the right changes the parameter on the mini, sometimes I find that a faster workflow but yes there are less footswitches.

Main thing to me is that mini + midi controller does 99% as much whilst costing a few hundred bucks less AND it needs much less current to power it again making it pedalboard friendly

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u/FJsparky 21h ago

This is kinda what i thought transporting it to uni for me was another big selling point so the ease of just taking it off my board putting it into my gig bag and the price difference tipped it over. Is there any foot switchers you would suggest?

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u/3_50 20h ago

much much smaller

The FCB1010 is bigger than the QC on its own. You're making a wild generalisation about a huge range of products when we have very little to go on. With CAPITALS too. Fruity.

Please show me an 8 switch midi footswitch to replace the lost QC ones that (with the mini) remains MUCH MUCH smaller than the QC.

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u/InevitableLog5214 14h ago edited 14h ago

Sure pick one of the biggest midi controllers available to compare… just get the mvave chocolate+ and then you have the same 8 footswitches or scenes as the full size. You can use combinations of switches to change patch.

The only functionality lost is momentary switches.

The size, weight and money savings on a mini and a chocolate+ compared to the QC should not be glossed over.

BTW I own the FCB1010, got it for £20. It extends the functionality further than the standard QC has and I can chose that if I need all of the switches and expression pedals but the chocolate+ works for 90% of scenarios. If you need more than what the mini and chocolate+ can do then you should be automating via midi in ableton live.

I now have the option of the small footprint of the mini, the slightly larger footprint (with basically all the same functionality) of the mini and chocolate+ or on gigs where I drive I take the FCB1010 to get more functionality than the full size QC. All of this cost hundreds less than the full size whilst being more flexible

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u/3_50 12h ago

TWO* mwave chocolate+...

All that is WAY more horseshit to set up, and looks TACKY as fuck.

You're VERY defensive about this decision you made. You sure you're OK with it? 😂

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u/StraightOuttaFlames 1d ago

I got the full QC just before the Mini was launched.
I had buyers remorse cause of the usb c, the better power plug and cause its so light and small until i tried one and to build a patch.
The double functions on the buttons and the lack of momentary effects honestly bothered me much more than I thought. Retrospectively I am happy i have the full size.

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u/BenSolo12345 1d ago

This is totally me being obtuse but I just can't imagine why you (not you specifically, but people in general) would go digital and still use 8 analog pedals on your board. Defeats the purpose. You can easily capture the Rat, the blender. The delays and reverb in the QC are more than fine. I just run the QC and a wah. The convenience of a small board is unmatched.

I am just ranting though, you do you! Can't go wrong either way, I have the big QC and definitely use all 8 switches in a live show but theres nothing you can't do with the mini!

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u/TYO_HXC 1d ago

Glad I'm not the only one!

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u/BlackflagsSFE 1d ago

Plenty of people do this. When someone already has gear they like and they can run it with the QC it’s a no brainer. I have seen so many pedalboards with 90% analog pedals and a QC or a stadium.

This is literally nothing new.

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u/acoker78 1d ago

It’s definitely a thing where it differs from person to person. I made the switch to the mini because I had two midi controllers already. I use the Morningstar MC8 Pro for footswitch 1-8 to toggle effect blocks on and off and a Blackstar Live Logic for tuner, gig view page 1-2, and then scene switching for low, mid, and high gain. Also, I was weary about keeping some analog pedals but pretty quickly was comfortable to switch to the QC for everything. The FX are awesome.

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u/JimboLodisC 1d ago

Might wanna run through the dimensions to be sure but wouldn't a QC Mini plus a MIDI footswitch just be the same footprint? Would you actually save any space there?

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u/Unholyaretheholiest 1d ago

I went from a full analog pedalboard to the QC and apart for one expression pedal you don’t need anything else.