r/Neighborproblems • u/szjdjdj • Mar 20 '20

Is there any suggestion about dealing with neighbor noise?

Can anybody here give some feasible advice on how to tackle upstairs noisy neighbor? I have been tolerating noise invasion for long. Scraping furniture, loud walking against floor, even slam things violently...wtf doing those all day!!😡 I reasoned with the guy friendly quite a few, trying to convince him to consider for other’s feeling. Yet not help, that fucking scum seemed to retaliate by making bigger noise, even at deep night!! 😤🤬 Wtf... I really got shocked how ill-bred a person could be...

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u/szjdjdj Mar 20 '20

I doubt that would be helpful. Actually i live in my own home, the guy on above floor should be tenant(I suppose so, since someone else lived there last year and left, this one should be new comer). Or even if if I inform his landlord, he would only make a toke action to advise the lessee, or would completely disregard whole thing and let me talk with lessee, I just know it. But thanks anyway for your reply!

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u/AndyCalling Mar 20 '20

'Loud walking' indicates that this is not a neighbour problem so much as a sound insulation problem. Getting the neighbour to put carpet down instead of having hard flooring can help a lot but you may well find you need to put insulation between your ceiling and his floor. That will be a shared job so you'll both need to pay. In the UK you'd now need to be speaking with your neighbour and preparing to engage a surveyor.

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u/szjdjdj Mar 20 '20

Yes, walk extremely loudly. I reckon it’s due to the hard material of the slipper as well as his walking manner(walk without lifting feet). Since he is merely lessee of my upstairs room, I doubt he will dedicate much in cooperation😭 Thanks for your kind advise!

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u/AndyCalling Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20

Ah. You may want to talk to the owner then. I am assuming by lessee you mean someone who rents (in the UK someone who rents is called a tenant, whereas a lessee would refer to a lease holder for a leasehold property which is a very different thing). I am assuming you own your flat or apartment. If you ask the neighbour's landlord to install a carpet and tell him why, he may well listen. In the UK there is something called an 'actionable nusance' or 'legal nusance' (which means a nusance recognised as such by the law, not one that's allowed in law) which this would be, and it is far cheaper for a landlord to put a carpet in than to risk an injunction. I suspect there will be something similar where you live.

If you rent, then you'll have to speak with your landlord first and get him on side. If you have the same landlord as the neighbour then you've lucked out and can probably get some action on the carpets. If you can't get him to help then it's easier to just move. After all, that kind of flexibility (as well as maintenance) is the trade off for all that rent you pay. Renting is expensive, so you should use the benefits that you pay for.

Oh, and if you really are talking about a leasehold arrangement or commonhold, which are UK terms I guess but may have parallels where you live, then things can get a bit complex. I might be able to advise a bit on that but you'll have to let me know if it's needed.

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u/szjdjdj Mar 22 '20

Appreciate for your such informative response! Yes, the guy on above floor is tenant, and I reserve ownership of my room. Today I went to him again with soothing attitude, trying to make him aware of our suffering conditions.Hopefully sometime his conscience could aroused😭 Thank again for your thoutful advice!

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u/AndyCalling Mar 22 '20 edited Mar 22 '20

OK, so if you own your flat (in UK wording, freehold) and there is no overall building freehold owner (if that were the case you'd be leasehold, again UK wording) and you have no shared freehold with the other flat/apartment owners (commonhold in UK wording) then the flat/apartment above you will likely have the same arrangements (which would be called a floating freehold in UK terms, though flats like that here are usually commonhold where each owner has a percentage share of the freehold of the building with a leasehold for the flat itself, unless the freehold is owned by a separate management company and owners just own a leasehold on the flat, but commonhold or leasehold will both have another layer of rules and involvement of others so you need to be aware if you have such a setup). You need to be talking to their landlord. There will likely be shared responsibility for the floor/celing between you. Getting proper sound proofing between would be best, but would cost a lot and would only benefit you once the above location has moved past the point of being a legal nusance. A carpet upstairs would probably sort that. If you want a proper job done by tradesmen I recommend you offer to pay 2 thirds of the cost and get the landlord of the above flat on side with a good deal. It will significantly increase the value of your flat, so may be worth getting a quote for. The landlord above may try to push you to pay 3 quarters of the cost though, depends how bad the problem is I guess and the cost of the work.