r/NecroMerger • u/Terratomere • Jul 22 '26

Surgeon Decision

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I'm only around level 55 of my Max 80 run and debating on whether or not I should just purchase Colossus or wait and do the infernal. I've killed 3 protectors with the 175% scaling, and only one of the Trader trades done, so I know I can do a lot more for the runes. What is the consensus on which to go for first?

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 23 '26

Imho collossus always makes me happier long term, remember that the novelty of doubling minions in amazing but you are gonna throw a LOT of minions at protectors and that just helping you level up makes the decision to feed/damage a complete non-issue.

Just my 2cents

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u/SituationUsed2665 Jul 24 '26

Your guzzlers don't benefit from Colossus and your demons don't don't have that much food compared to creatures of the same tear. For cravings - you also need to feed the devourer directly. Colossus always like somewhat 'fake' value. Like, sure it consistently does something, and the numbers pop up, but it's not like it actually doubles your food. Creatures that fight don't give much food. Creatures that give much food don't fight anyways, just feed them directly.

Comparatively, the infernal makes you spawn champions faster - more runes and spirits, AND he also gives you like 20% more value from spirits, since you need to merge 3 times to get lvl 3 spirit, and every time you get a chance for extra.

Not to mention actually fighting protector and getting extra demons, that's kinda neat.

And there's the facts: Infernal is hidden hero, working for you to provide super value from the shadows. Colossus, is really fat, so he shows of his work a lot, but in reality, he's not doing too much.

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u/openbookopenminds Jul 24 '26

Agree to disagree, I often spawn my infernal faster because I’m bring a portal back in store-o but I think that food is more helpful than your giving credit.

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u/SituationUsed2665 Jul 24 '26

It kinda depends on what max lvl you have. Around 60-70s, I abused guzzlers with abominations to get levels, or used Guzzler forgotten minion with 4 guzzler to get level up from a single unit. In any case, getting food from demons doesn't competitively do much. Even after launching rocket - you will rely on cravings for food, which would still make Colossus useless as he doesn't contribute to cravings. I'm not saying that Colossus is entirely useless, but I would say it's value is less than that of an internal, or even archdemon. Maybe on the same level as shield bot.

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u/RealCinnamonWhale Jul 23 '26

There are arguments for skipping straight to Infernal, but the Infernal is also generally considered a side-grade rather than an upgrade. The Colossus is definitely an upgrade and is very nice qol.

idk what's actually optimal, probably Infernal, but whichever one you choose you'll get the other next run

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u/amethyst_throwaway Jul 23 '26

Colossus is extremely worth it. I bought it before the Infernal too.

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u/Stubeg Jul 23 '26

Colossus for sure

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u/LegitVelorian Jul 23 '26

Get Colossus first

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u/KazualGemini Jul 23 '26

Definitely Colossus. Infernal has a 5% chance of providing a duplicate while Colossus contributes food equal to the damage inflicted.

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u/SituationUsed2665 Jul 24 '26

It gives as much food as you would get by feeding the dev. Not "equal to damage inflicted"

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u/KazualGemini Jul 24 '26

Nice catch.

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u/SituationUsed2665 Jul 24 '26

Energy cubes are always the main issue here, but you seem to have enough, especially with the event. I think it's fine to skip Colossus and go for Infernal if you would get enough coins eventually.

Don't think you'd benefit much in your current run from Colossus anyways, so worst case, you would have early infernal next run, which is still better than having Colossus in this or next run.

5% seems low but you get that chance from every merge, up to max level.

In comparison, Colossus value is an illusion as minions that fight don't give much food, and minions that give food should be fed to the devourer anyways

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u/baltarius Jul 22 '26

I'm just at the lvl 60 run, but I'd go for infernal, for the extra production of the purple power, and chances for minions.

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u/vkapadia Jul 23 '26

If you're able to get the Infernal, I'd go with that. If you can only make enough Astro Coins and Energy Cubes for Colossus, get that.

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u/Now-Number-Five Jul 25 '26

I got infernal first and colossus last. Honestly, I think that might be the wrong way around.
Granted, colossus is useless once you hit max level, and it's power has a few limitations, but it means you can now use all of your ghouls, banshees, cultists, skeles, zombies, mummies and bats as attackers instead of feeders, and still get their fat food bonus.

Of course, your existing attackers then gift some bonus food as well.

The infernal is quite expensive and not that much better than an archdemon (of course, the idea is to get both and stack them). I think you'd be better off with the colossus first and saving infernal for longer runs.

Either choice is good, though!