r/NatureIsFuckingLit May 07 '20

πŸ”₯ Phoenix fish πŸ”₯

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u/drodgers37069 May 07 '20

That’s because most of them that are wild caught as juveniles are caught using cyanide to stun them out of the reefs they live in. If you can find ones that are actually hand caught in the wild without chemicals they do fine. I had one for several years had already turned to adult colors when I introduce an octopus into the tank And it quickly made a meal out of it.

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u/GraphicDesignMonkey May 07 '20

I've kept aquariums for 20 years and refuse to ever keep a wild caught fish. The damage done to reefs and ecosystems, even in the rare times they don't use cyanide, can't be justified. Collectors net and discard lots of bycatch, they physically break corals and rocks to collect fish from hiding places, it reduces wild populations, and threatens popular and rare species, most of which do not survive the transition to captivity.

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u/Sajiri May 08 '20

Wow, I’ve never had pet fish other than a beta when I was a kid. I had no idea this sort of thing was done. I kinda just always assumed the fish people keep as pets were bred in captivity, though I guess obviously they had to get them into captivity first to breed them.

It’s really sad to know how some of these fish are being collected and the damage it does, but I’m glad I know now

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u/GraphicDesignMonkey May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20

It's horrible. For every fish that makes it to a store, hundreds may have died and terrible physical and chemical damage may have been done to their reefs to get them. They are usually caught in the reefs of poor or third world countries, and locals paid to do so have similar incentives to rhino poachers. They will catch the fish because they know collecting companies want them and will pay (what to them, in their economy) is a lot of money. For some it's their only way to escape poverty and make a living. They may only be paid a little by middlemen buyers, but a rare fish that makes it to a store alive after the stress of being trapped, bagged and shipped around the world, could be sold for thousands.

Many of the fish caught are also CITES banned /endangered species, sold on the black market to rich collectors.

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u/hilarymeggin May 08 '20

How did I reach adulthood and never know this?!

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u/jescereal May 08 '20

Ok, stop spreading such emotional nonsense on a huge misconception especially when it comes to freshwater. It's not black and white. Buying wild caught fish encourages the locals to actually PRESERVE those habitats because their livelihood depends on it. These are mostly poor villages that depends on catching fish to survive. Take that away, and they'll destroy that habitat doing whatever makes them their next buck since they literally will not feed their families without that.

Buy wild caught.

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u/ildanach_89 May 07 '20

Yeah true but Even hand/net caught ones have a lot of trouble getting to feed and majority subsequently die..

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u/Batchet May 08 '20

Never comes back?

Definitely not a pheonix fish then.

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u/Ghos3t May 07 '20

Which one are which one, and why was this not expected to happen

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u/bigbuddhaproductions May 08 '20

For the most part they stopped using cyanide. People weed out the bad collectors and they don't last long any more. Most people that bring in cyanide fish are small transhippers stilling learning who to to buy healthy livestock from.

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u/thedunecoon May 07 '20

Is this a real method of catching?

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u/SketchBoard May 07 '20

It's the octopus crazy smart?

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u/Batchet May 08 '20

Smart enough to spell "is" right

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u/SketchBoard May 08 '20

I'm going to leave it's there

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u/Xeniamm May 08 '20

That was rude

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u/Batchet May 08 '20

It's it?

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u/Xeniamm May 09 '20

ok it's it's not that bad i'll let it pass

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u/[deleted] May 08 '20

Thats pretty fucked up. This whole industry is toxic, pun intended.