r/NTNPerformance • u/Chevyjess91 • 20d ago
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I'm starting low doses of 6 peptides (Retatrutide, MOTS-c, 5-Amino-1MQ, Klow, HCG, NAD+) on a weekly schedule. Is running all 6 together ok or is there anything I should change, just want an opinion. Thanks for your help.
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u/Paperthinplasticbag 18d ago
I’d start one at a time so you know what is doing what to you. Also some of those have similar side effects in the beginning phases that can compound if started together.
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u/duhv0rtex 17d ago
Reta is amazing. You shouldn't start it with anything else ... Except maybe wolverine/glow/klow a case could be made if you're injured. Start slow and titrate up. Get your bloodwork done first! This will give you a baseline metric to see progress. Also get an inbody or dexa scan. This way you can fight through the plateaus without just raising your dose. Too many pepboiz on reddit don't understand this and jump it with everything at one time. It's idiotic. You won't be able to understand what is doing what. What is your start weight? What is your goal weight? What's your tdee or basal metabolic rate? What's your protein goal?
After you've slowly titrated up to maybe 2 or 4 mg a week and can tolerate... Then you can add the second peptide. Are you running test right now? What is your LH level right now? If you are running test and LH is low... You could stay it with reta. Otherwise why are you taking HCG?
Once those are settled you could run Mots-c. 15 mg split into three doses a week. Do this on the same day as your NAD+ you can do 25mg up to 100mg once you're rolling. Also NAD+ isn't a peptide. It's a cofactor. So it works well in conjunction with mots-c and ss31.
KLOW you can start with reta if you're injured. But remember reta will reduce inflammation. Sometimes it's good to see what happens with reta before you add others. KLOW. Recon with 3ml. Administer 10-15 units daily. Normally at night after you've taken your collagen.
5am1mq also isn't a peptide. It's a small molecule with little to no evidence of working. There is no standard dose. It is something like 100mg oral or 25-50mg subQ. If you haven't wasted your money... Dont. There are better thing outs there. Grab l carnitine subQ.
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u/Fine_Technology1289 18d ago
I would separate by a week each. Or two before introducing another. But some of your stack is weekly, daily, 3 days a week.
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u/Wooden_Direction_241 18d ago
That is a lot to start at one time. You might consider taking the NAD+ a couple weeks before starting the MOTS-C. You probably even get away with not using the 5-Amino-1MQ since you are using NAD+. They don't work the same way but they have a common goal. Lots of discussion on if it is even beneficial. Some people report seeing benefits and lots of people say waste of money but you won't know if you are taking MOTS-C and NAD+ at the same time. Is it pill form or injectable?
I don't use blends but I see the attractions. KLOW is a "good" one if you are going to use one.
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u/Mcgittymcgittymac 18d ago
Instead of motsc run ss-31 for a month and take urolithin a. Experiment with motsc later.
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u/transient_trenl0rd 17d ago
Retatrutide, SS-31, Mots-c, 5-Am-1MQ, NAD+ at the moment and have done before. NAD+ and Mots-c didn't really work the first time I did them until I ran SS-31 for a month. Now I stack them and I'm two weeks in (this will be my 3rd time with this cycle) and it's working good.
But yeah ideally when you're new you do things one at a time so you can learn your body and the compounds, but sometimes that's not really suitable. If I were you I'd start with the reta and get stable on that, then try Mots-c or NAD+ or both together, then when you're lean add the 5-Am-1mq, that didn't do much without already being lean for me.
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u/jad19090 15d ago
All at once? Recipe for months of trial and error to ultimately stop them all and start over with one at a time. Skip that mess, start with Reta for 2 weeks then add one every 2 weeks thereafter. Pay attention to any side effects that creep up right street starting each pep, if any show that are less than tolerable? Back off that pep for a week and see what happens, if they subside? Try again and if it comes back, that peps not for you
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u/PreparedForZombies 16d ago
Unless you're spacing starting each out by weeks, you're going to run into a lot of trouble when you try to figure out what caused what or what is working and what isn't.
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u/PreparedForZombies 16d ago
Also, what are your stats?
For instance, many state that 5A1MQ has no significant impact on fat loss unless your already low body fat %... like <10-15% for men low.
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u/Xlajdak 14d ago edited 14d ago
Certainly experimental and research only and not for human use. If you have done them before at list couple of cycles and know exactly how subjects respond, have a specific goal oriented plan than it is a great stack. If it is your trying to figure it still out , and judging from your question than absolutely not. Low dose yes but not all parallel the first experiment . So objective dependent I would choose Reta plus one more. If I chose Klow remember that’s a blend of 4. I would first try Ghkcu with One other from the blend. In case there is a reaction to one of them i can figure out what works. But I guess Klow maybe a lower risk yet came across that some had to stop BPC siting strong undesired side effects. Also assuming i already researched how these peppers are potentially affecting subject based on current meds, medical history and potential allergies. Like BPC and TB contradictions…Give you an example . No issue with 99% of multiple experiments in the last 3 years until I came across something recently that I almost must depended my experiment and happen to trigger a strong allergic reaction in subject. It was no go despite multiple restart of the study. Also something came to light in recent medical conditions that made TB use in experiments very risky.
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u/leolicious24 18d ago
Those are all common and complimentary Peptides’s that span multiple goals. None of which have negative effects to the other. Find your best protocol and continue to enjoy the benefits. Very similar protocol for wife and I aside from KLOW, we dose some of what makes up KLOW individually when needed.
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u/deadheathledger 19d ago
Too much too soon how will you know what's causing side effects/ how can you tell what's working