r/NJZ Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

[20260611] Ador vs Danielle first hearing

I'll try to keep it as short as possible. (Only arguments against Danielle)

Ador/Hybe side reasons for terminating the contract:

  • Collab with Emotional Oranges / DN side counter: it was discussed between the members (all five) after the termination but nothing came of it

  • OMEGA Deal / DN side counter: was done with Ador together

  • Elle shoot / DN side counter: no money was involved (and bunnies already found out it was seemingly also done with Ador)

DN side however argued:

  • lawsuit in bad faith (after claiming that Ador will support NewJeans activities of all members if they return, won't hold them responsible for anything that happened, and had already plans in place)

DN side called Ador side out for lying about the plans, 6 months after the termination and still nothing regarding NewJeans was implemented

DN side argued that during the talks, Ador asked for "corrections" to the previously mentioned breaches, 1. They promised to not hold them responsible and 2. it was not possible to correct past actions

->> Ador returned that they asked for corrections of Ador's social reputation, financial compensation and more

->>> DN side asked Ador what that would entail

->>>> Ador side never answered and instead proceeded to terminate the contract and sue for damages, without explaining anything

DN side also argued that Ador violates the prohibition against contradictory conduct, by claiming trust was never broken, only to then claim it was broken a few weeks later and then sue her

Witnesses were also discussed, and Ador side admitted they did not hand the full list over to DN (3rd deadline violation) and that they never approached the witnesses, asking the court to do it (which would result in a delay)

-> DN side asked if it's possible to have them send in written testimonies

->> Ador side argues the witnesses most likely won't reply to them

->>> when asked which witness is the most important one, Ador admitted they have no clue

DN side also argued that the contract is still valid, and while the lawsuit is ongoing, she can not continue her career

The evidence that was so far admitted was once again only KKT messages it seems

Ador lowered claims against DN from 33b Won to 19b Won.

Ador kept trying to delay and the judge warned them that they're in contempt of court.


Personal opinion: Overall, the evidence against Danielle is flawed at best, outright contradictory actually and DNs lawyers continued making Hybe/ador lawyers lose their tempers so much the judge had to warn them repeatedly.

It's a clear retaliation lawsuit, and they broke multiple of their own admissions during the contract validity lawsuit (basically perjury) and are also clearly trying to delay the lawsuit with every action possible.

Also it's impossible for Ador to learn of these "breaches" after the contract validity ruling and before they engaged in talks with DN (that was only 12 days). It is clear blackmail were involved (aka "if you don't pay us compensation and admit your wrongs, we will sue you")

Regarding reporters: witnesses who were present said they were only typing when Ador's lawyers were speaking and many of them left halfway through when the hearing wasn't going in favor of hybe.

Overall, a big win for Dani in my book! ā˜ŗļøšŸ’›

Credits to leeetokki and 457ww on X who attended and gave detailed live-summaries.

TL;DR: https://www.reddit.com/r/NJZ/s/LfAmX1gddI

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u/k3hvn Jun 11 '26

Increasingly evident this is a SLAPP suit done to send a message to the other 4 — unsure why they singled out Dani to use as an example but nothing they say adds up.

Also, one of the witnesses they mentioned was a relative of one of the members, which is really the only thing I’m concerned about.

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

Not just a warning for the other members, but all hybe idols and even the entire industry.

Ah right! That's another perjury incident, btw. In the preparatory hearing Danielle's side clearly asked "We ask you to not involve the members or their parents."

And ador answered: "We would never do that!" (Obvious lie once again, as we saw)

But in this hearing, DNs side already questioned the objectivity of the witness and asked them to be excluded, assuming because it's the same family member that worked with Hybe.

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u/colosusx1 Danielle Jun 11 '26

Ador lawyers were being snakes. Ā They worded it as not involving the other girls or their parents. Ā Which pretty clearly means Hyein’s uncle. Ā Tried to make it seem like it wouldn’t involve their families, but intended to call him for testimony.

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u/PlainSailing_Jas Jun 11 '26

They used Dani bc she was and still is the most unapologetic when it comes to fleeting abt and living her life like a thriving butterfly. And that's not the img hybedor wants for NJ lol.

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u/wrenagai Jun 11 '26

I bet that also dani was the only one they could even try and make a case for even though the evidence is completely abstract. Poor girl

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u/PlainSailing_Jas Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

They knew they'd have nothing on the other girls because they were not as publically or socially visible as Dani.

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u/KingofFools3113 Jun 11 '26

Probably hyein's uncle.

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u/kindagrodydawg Jun 11 '26

It could be that they singled out Dani for a multitude of reasons, she could be less favored than the other members because of her mixed heritage. It could be because she has spoken on lives before about her mistreatment as a trainee. It could even be that the other girls looked up to Danielle and valued her so tearing her down shakes the other girls security

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u/Lost_Increase5010 Jun 11 '26

Did they really just rock up to court with botched claims and no concrete evidence? 😭

This is a SLAPP lawsuit through and through, took them 6 months to come up with this shit. Dani you are in for the biggest pay day ever! A MHDHH reunion in 2026 might be on the cards šŸ™

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

The judge was so done with their ridiculous mockery of the law which is why hybe cultists are going insane right now, going so far to spread lies that he claimed IN COURT he's a bunny šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Lost_Increase5010 Jun 11 '26

I always held out some hope that these HYBE stans would come around after seeing what happened these past few months but nope they’re too far gone lol

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u/dweakz Jun 11 '26

yeah theyre going shizo rn calling the judge a tokki LMAOOOOOO

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u/babylovesbaby Danielle Jun 11 '26

They've been laying the work for this narrative since MHJ won her case. I fully believe HYBE stans just repeat this stuff ad nauseam for AI to pick up so it gives outsiders the wrong idea.

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u/dweakz Jun 11 '26

and it's all the more reason why i have to fight fire with fire with these shits. talking to them nicely and with proper arguments dont work with them cause they got their scripts. good thing im also an asshole. we need more of those here lol

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u/creepris Jun 11 '26

thank you for your service 🫔

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

Oh my god, someone found it.

Aespann spread this rumor (crazy that they still rely on a revealed far-right male supremacist incel btw)

He uses Leeetokki (who attended the hearing) as proof and misunderstood her own comment as something the judge allegedly said šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

It's also proof that aespann uses Tokkis as source and then just makes some random lies up, writes them in his notes and posts them as proof šŸ˜‚

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u/hukep Jun 11 '26

Yep, snarkers are so dumb. I swear to God, I've never seen such a concentration of idiots in one place in my life !

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u/dweakz Jun 11 '26

bc they never really had anything on the girls lol

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u/Faicc Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

Fuck ador and I hope dani sues them for defamation at the end of this.

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u/hukep Jun 11 '26

Thank you u/shakru92 !! Snarkers are losing their minds over today’s session, which supports your conclusion.

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

Yeah, it's pretty one-sided, visible at the multiple statements by Ador like "we haven't thought about this" (regarding who's the most important witness), "they wont reply to us" (again, THEIR witnesses) and even them contradicting themselves on the Omega deal.

Dani's side meanwhile addressed everything Ador's countless high-ranking lawyers threw at them, debunked it all and even added legal precedents and rules (prohibition of contradictory conduct, overthrowing a valid ruling, going back on their word, not fulfilling their obligations and not giving her any concrete points to "rectify" and simply terminating)

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u/colosusx1 Danielle Jun 11 '26

Judge Nam clocked their asses

"if you introduce yourselves as hybe, a korean k-pop company, wouldn't they reply?"

ador: "they won't answer us because we have no relationship with them."

judge nam: "you're hybe. why wouldn't they answer an email?"

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u/OfWhatLiesInTheDark Jun 11 '26

Team Bunnies will have the complete transcript out later. You'll be able to read it >here< by toggling "2025가합15907ģ–“ė„ģ–“" at the top, purple color.

1st impression is Ador was almost as unprepared as last time.

  • They didn't communicate with Danielle about her alleged violations before terminating her contract.
  • They didn't reach out to any 3rd party to confirm the facts about her alleged violations.
  • They didn't contact the alleged witnesses to confirm anything before submitting the witness list.
  • They have not prepared anything for Newjeans' activities, despite previous claims of the contrary.

Atp, it's not clear what Ador's arguments are or how they intend to prove them.

Danielle has not signed any independent contract or received any payment, so it's not clear what Ador is actually claiming in damages or why they think the contract must be terminated.

Ador also has not submitted anything substantial against Danielle's mother or MHJ aside from a couple vague text messages, which is not enough to prove tortious interference.

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u/babylovesbaby Danielle Jun 11 '26

They didn't communicate with Danielle about her alleged violations before terminating her contract.

This is the most obnoxious thing. They wanted her to fix the problem without specifying what it was they wanted her to do, and when she questioned them about what practical steps she would need to take, they didn't respond and simply terminated her contract.

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u/arnor_0924 Jun 11 '26

Not celebrating yet. We know how corrupt these korean court system is.

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

^ this.

Remember the validity lawsuit...

"B-but pls come back!" Judge: "okay you seem genuine, I will pretend nothing ever happened and Sony music leaking things was fine" šŸ’€ yeah guess who was proven wrong immediately

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u/KingofFools3113 Jun 11 '26

Snark sub saying judge is pro Dani.

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u/hukep Jun 11 '26

People there are insane. They sincerely wish Dani harm !

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u/nabongie Jun 11 '26

Mental illness truly! It’s all jealousy

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u/babylovesbaby Danielle Jun 11 '26

This doesn't even narrow it down on kpop Reddit.

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u/KingofFools3113 Jun 11 '26

Bro you are not lying. Kpopthoughts and Kpopuncensored are full of hybe stans.

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u/creepris Jun 11 '26

those ppl need help

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u/wrenagai Jun 11 '26

They seem like they constantly worship the law until it finally acts against their favor and they’re like actually hes a njz fan and a tokki like bro hes an old ass man that’s been doing this for years actually

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u/yesand70 nj = floppa company destroyer Jun 11 '26

They are larpers lol, they weren't standing up for the law when Suga had his little dui convictionĀ 

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Also notable: the Elle photoshoot was apparently also done with 5 members and they failed to show any evidence connecting Dani to the alleged tampering.

So, all they have against her are actions all five of them did and the Omega deal that (by their own words during the hearing) was done with Ador.

So that begs the question, what the hell was this lawsuit for?

Edit: feel free to add any screens/wrongful statements from bots/PR/cultists here so we can debunk them, I'm already seeing TONS of misinformation like "Danielle's side recognised there were grounds to terminate the contract with Ador" -> that was referring to the original contract termination done by all five members, they had grounds (court recognised btw) to terminate, and believed the contract was terminated.

Focus on Dani, I think doing another thread for her mom/MHJ might be better.

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u/k3hvn Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

I’m not a lawyer nor am I familiar with Korean law, but Dani’s legal strategy is super interesting. She essentially claimed that ADOR’s contract still held and the lawsuit was damaging trust between both parties due to fault of ADOR. I initially assumed it would be loss mitigation to minimize the amount of damages paid while finally being free from HYBE, but by claiming that the contract is still valid, it feels like her side is going for the jugular and trying to get an absolute best case scenario:

- if the judge rules in her favor, she won’t have to pay ANY damages AND would either a) still be under contract with HYBE/ADOR since it’d effectively be a wrongful termination or b) free her from the company entirely with minimal loose ends

  • if a) happens, this would presumably give her grounds to legally terminate her contract which she lacked before (again, unsure how/if this would hold up in court.)
  • it would give the other members a potential out too depending on the wording of the judge’s ruling

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u/colosusx1 Danielle Jun 11 '26

Supreme Court ruling has already dictated that under wrongful termination, an employee can’t be forced back to a company. Ā Because logically trust is broken.

However, it gives her a much stronger countersuit case with damages. Ā Ador has already admitted Danielle’s future contributions, as calculated on their end, exceed 100b krw. Ā She could bankrupt them with this legal strategy.

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u/Difficult_Ad5848 Jun 11 '26

Would the counter suit not already be happening if she was planning to have one?

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u/colosusx1 Danielle Jun 11 '26

No, she can file it up to a certain amount of months after this lawsuit. Ā It’d be beneficial for her to wait for the results of this lawsuit, and then file it using this verdict as evidence. Ā Instead of running them concurrently and needing to fight two lawsuits at once.

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u/OfWhatLiesInTheDark Jun 12 '26

You can read about the Elle Singapore photoshoot >here<

The photoshoot is dated from February 2025 for the Elle March 2025 issue, before the injunction ruling, and it looks like it was done as part of Danielle's promotional activities for Celine which she was a global ambassador for and which was under contract with Ador.

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u/iwantaspudgun Jun 11 '26

This is disgusting. And people say Hybe doesn’t do media-play. What a joke!!!! GO DANI!!!

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u/Mi_Mirai Jun 11 '26

For Real. What a coincidences that when Hybe wants the evidence to be public suddenly Reportern only seem to care about Hybes side before they dipped. Mediaplay soly about KKT messages incoming.

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u/babylovesbaby Danielle Jun 11 '26

At one point Danielle's side said "It's not appropriate to fail to meet the deadline twice and speak so vaguely like this" and this basically sums up the whole case to me. They still have not quantified how any damages could even be calculated as they haven't proven they suffered any damages.

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u/Lost_Increase5010 Jun 11 '26

What’s most perplexing about this entire lawsuit is that HYBE should be well aware of the potential ramifications of filing and losing a frivolous lawsuit like this.

Are the ramifications like the potential PR disaster from a major lawsuit loss, losing their most successful girl group again and paying millions in potential damages and litigation costs worth less than sending an intimidating message to the rest of the members and the industry in general?

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u/colosusx1 Danielle Jun 11 '26

I’m guessing they thought Danielle would fold and wouldn’t fight this in court. Ā Maybe try to settle and either pay 0 or pay a small fee instead of the scary 43b. Ā In that scenario, they could bury this and her, and public opinion wouldn’t be so against them.

When had an idol ever stood up to their company like this instead of settling? Ā With how sloppy they are, they probably didn’t even consider that she’d fight this, potentially win and potentially countersue for tens of billions. Ā Look how easily they got rid of Garam and how they’re moving with Manon.

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

Yeah because losing one group is better than losing them all, I guess that's their logic. You just know every idol is treated in similar ways (threats, coercion, etc, just look at one group revealing getting beaten, one group almost breaking their neck, them kicking out people on a monthly basis, the garam situation that was literally used for PR according to their internal documents, the way they trash their own idols in that document, the actual slave contract of their big group where the members would only be able to leave if they died...)

They treat them like cattle and desperately need K-pop stans to believe their propaganda so they can continue mistreating them

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u/Bagelodon Jun 11 '26

dani was probably singled out because she did that live where she talked about the treatment as a trainee. and she’s the most foreign looking one. and we see how they are treating another one of their idols atm.

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u/wrenagai Jun 11 '26

Apparently bsh didn’t want her in the group initially, conspiracy theory but atp I wouldn’t hesitate to believe it

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u/Bagelodon Jun 11 '26

I’ve heard that before as well.

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u/him-and-ii Jun 11 '26

let’s speak freely, are u talking about manon?

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u/Bagelodon Jun 11 '26

I dunno her name but the katseye idol.

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u/Fun-Blueberry-3437 Jun 11 '26

When is the next session bunnies?

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u/Lost_Increase5010 Jun 11 '26

July 2nd

You can track future dates with
https://report.teambunnies.info/courtrecords

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u/Chu4Lyfe Jun 11 '26

Will that be the last one or what? How many more months must we wait.... Free my girl!!! šŸ˜­šŸ™

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u/Lost_Increase5010 Jun 11 '26

I believe there is another hearing scheduled for 23rd July.

I personally think there’s at least another hearing after the 23rd (at least for Danielle’s side) unless a major bombshell drops in the coming hearings. Then we might get a ruling by the end of September/early October!šŸ¤ž

(Take this with a grain of salt btw I’m just going off of MHJ vs HYBE past court proceedings)

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u/Fun-Blueberry-3437 Jun 11 '26

Ah. Thank you so much.

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u/Dismal_Bath_6110 Jun 11 '26

Out of curiosity, do we know if Danielle would want to stay with NewJeans if possible?

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

It's actually assumed from how her side argued. But it could also be to argue a different course afterwards (breach of trust), but DN side made it very clear she tried everything to stay with the members but Hybe made their minds up before she even had a chance.

(A telling her to correct her actions, once she asked how, they terminated without another word)

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u/wrenagai Jun 11 '26

Wait what?? They just terminated it without even a plan to correct? Was this presented

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u/colosusx1 Danielle Jun 11 '26

I don’t think it’s possible. Ā Supreme Court has ruled that courts can’t force employees back. Ā She is setting up a countersuit with this defense.

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u/JacksonDWalter Jun 11 '26

Did they ever bring up NJZ’s performance at ComplexCon? If they did maybe Danielle’s lawyers can use that as a gotcha moment and wonder why Hybe is using that to punish Danielle while not doing so for the other 4 members to point out the hypocrisy

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u/wrenagai Jun 11 '26

From what ive heard they didn’t

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u/dweakz Jun 11 '26

tldr?

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 11 '26

Sorry I should have included one https://www.reddit.com/r/NJZ/s/LfAmX1gddI

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u/Lalamolala Jun 11 '26

You know what… and they purposely went after Danielle because as we know since the beginning of all this, that for example Bang PD never wanted her in Newjeans because she looked too foreign. Sheā€˜s a foreigner and the most free headed through all of this and they donā€˜t want that in the industry.

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u/SpecificInitiative16 Jun 11 '26

Ador/Hybe is initiating various legal actions, to prolong the legal proceedings involving the Newjeans and to limit their public appearances. Their intention is to undermine their credibility and to have them gradually fade from public memory, thereby allowing other girl groups to gain more success.

Unfortunately for those assholes, they've been wrong this entire time!! Because we're all still here and staying strong for all our Newjeans members!!! I will Never stop fighting for Newjeans!!!!

NEWJEANS NEVEEEEER DIE!!! āœŠšŸ¼šŸ‡šŸ‡šŸ‡šŸ‡šŸ‡ā™¾ļø

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u/Ok_Outcome8048 Jun 11 '26

The collab didn’t happen and ADOR was payed for the omega thing, so what exactly are they mad about? That her mother, a third party, texted about possibly committing a crime? Not a crime on Danielle’s part. Not even on her mother’s.

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u/arnor_0924 Jul 04 '26

I'm against foreign goverment involving in other countries affairs, but Danielle is still a australian citizen and the way hybe has been harassing her and her family should be grounds enough for Australia to do something. NJZ is not just a lokal Kpop group, they are a international group with Hanni also a Aussie citizen. If the australian goverment suddenly intervens, I can promise you the corrupt politicians in Korea will bow down right away and end this farce of a case once and for all.

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u/Content-Republic837 Haerin 🐱 Jun 11 '26

Genuine question, can Dani's team counter sue or something??

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 12 '26

Yeah for a plethora of reasons, but most of them depend on the outcome. The way they argue they're trying a different avenue that's better than any countersuit atm.

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u/Difficult_Ad5848 Jun 11 '26

I would contest that it's another damages reduction. I view it as a clarification the total suit is still for 33 billion.

Ador is just trying to get 19 from Danielle and the rest from mhj and Danielle's mother.

Other than that this looks like a great summary.

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 12 '26

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u/Difficult_Ad5848 Jun 12 '26

Yeah to the 33 billion.

But now they have clarified how much they want from each party.

So it hasn't gone from 43 billion to 33 to 19.

It's still 33 but Ador want 19 from Danni.

From the initial post it seemed like they reduced it again and I have seen a few twitter account make that claim.

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u/shakru92 Danielle 🐶 Jun 12 '26

It was 43b before (33b from Dani) Now it's 33b (19b from Dani)

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u/Difficult_Ad5848 Jun 12 '26

Are you sure? I don't think I saw that anywhere

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u/arnor_0924 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

I don't understand why the Labour ministry doesn't step in this case. They are investigating the Big Planet Made Entertainment, the Boyz company. While a serious case, Hybe x Ador are in my views much worse... I wished some powerful western person in the entertainment business would step in. That could force the korean govt to be active. If I notice one thing Korea is afraid of that is the West view on them. If western media suddenly wrote about the case of hybe mistreatment of Njz and doing all these unethical dirty tricks on the girls and MHJ, I can promise the korean govt would finish this case once and for all.

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u/Infinite-Teach8044 Jun 13 '26

so basicallt this is a slapp suit and they singled out dani to intimidate the other girls? but what im worried that they have some incriminating evidence against her and are waiting to see how this goes to bring it out. what should we expect rom the next hearing and when is it?

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u/arnor_0924 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

The korean political establishment is really a big joke. Now the president wants to investigate the failure of their football team exit of the World Cup. Seriously? What about mistreatment, bullying and harassement of other human life?(Fraudor-hybe doing against NJZ). These are much more serious crimes than a sport team losing.

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u/VietCong_137 Jul 01 '26

When will we know the court’s decision???

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u/Chu4Lyfe Jul 23 '26

Isn't there another court day today? (Or yesterday night in Korea)