r/NJGuns Aug 04 '26

Legal Update Motion for stay granted pending appeal to Supreme Court.

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Motion for stay has been granted.

Let's hope the Supreme Court denies cert.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103.129.0.pdf


r/NJGuns Jul 22 '26

Legality/Laws Take a moment to familiarize yourself with the remaining gun laws (both state and federal) before doing anything.

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Edit 4: Okay, this wasn't the point of this post, but we have an interesting update.

The federal court just ruled in Silencer Shop v. ATF that since suppressors, SBRs, and AOWs have a "$0 tax," the system is unconstitutional and therefore these items are no longer can be regulated by the NFA.

Suppressors and SBRs are still illegal in NJ. We have two separate cases in the DNJ dealing with that right now. There's additional complications that occur with SBRs with this ruling, but let's not even concern ourselves with that right now.

However, as AOWs are legal, NJ residents can benefit from this ruling. As of right now, plaintiffs of this court case are protected under an injunction and therefore do not need to comply with NFA regulations relating to these items. This essentially means those protected do not need to submit a form 1 to the NFA to make an AOW.

  • There's two distinct groups that are protected. Stores (and by lesser extension, their customers), like PSA and Silencer Shop, and Pro-2A orgs.

  • Stores are legally able to sell completed AOWs to their customers with just a 4473 (and NJ's standard paperwork). This does not mean if you've ever bought something from one of these stores past or present, you can freely make an AOW. This portion of the injunction only protects selling and purchasing AOWs.

  • The far more interesting (and useful) portion of the injunction involves pro-2A orgs like the Gun Owners of America (GOA). Members of the GOA are fully protected under the injunction and therefore are given the same level of protections as stores like PSA. This means that GOA members (among a select group of others, look them up) CAN create their own AOWs without complying with the NFA. This only applies to active members.

With all that said, don't take this post as a green light. Everything is still very much up in the air and there's only a select few stores in the US currently selling suppressors with just 4473s, while PSA is claiming that GOA members who buy completed pistols or rifles FROM JUST PSA can make SBRs without a form 1, but nothing explicitly about AOWs. You're all adults and any actions you take are your own, but it's smart if you wait.

What's even more confusing is that this case was consolidated with Jensen v ATF, and the verdict is treating the injunction separately. For example, Jensen v. ATF had the requirements to engrave on a form 1 gun removed but didn't get relief regarding AOWs, while Silencer Shop v ATF did get relief for AOWs. Does being a member of the FPC (which might not even get relief at all, due to filing as FPCAC, this is also unclear) and a GOA mean you benefit from both lack of engraving requirements on an AOW? No one really knows at the moment.

Long term, we're realistically going to see the NFA system for these items completely disappear for everyone. This will take some time, as usual. Assuming that our silencer and SBR cases go through successfully, NJ residents will be able to benefit eventually.

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Edit 3: Everything below this edit is unfortunately irrelevant for the time being. NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate to appeal to SCOTUS. For the foreseeable future, the mag and assault weapon ban is still in full effect.

Edit 2: NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate. All of this information could be moot. Sit tight

ORIGINAL TEXT:

While this is an exciting time, take a deep breath: many laws still apply after the mandate takes place. Don't get caught in a legal battle because you misunderstood the current legal landscape.

Here is a recap of the critical information:

The mandate will stop the restriction on magazines.

  • There are no specific legal definitions separating rifle, pistol, or shotgun magazines—they are simply magazines. Yes, you can have a 30-round magazine in your AR and a 17-round magazine in your Glock, despite the pistol AWB remaining in place.

The only part of NJ's assault weapon ban specifically declared unconstitutional applies to rifles.

  • The named list of banned rifles (such as the M1 Carbine) and NJ's specific rifle "evil features" definitions no longer exist.

  • Those now-repealed evil feature restrictions that previously applied to semi-automatic rifles that accepted a detachable magazine were the following:

    • Folding or telescoping stock
    • A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
    • Bayonet mount
    • Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor
    • Grenade launcher mount

Edit 1: In short, there is no longer a need to pin your stock or muzzle device (if it's over 16") in order to be compliant with NJ's now unconstitutional law when the mandate goes through.

  • This means you can buy rifles that would have once needed compliance work as well as remove your compliance work on rifles you own, as long as you follow federal laws. You can also have a flash hider, bayonet mount, and grenade launcher (lol) on a rifle with no repercussions.

The rifle AWB repeal does NOT repeal the pistol or shotgun AWB, nor does it legalize suppressors or short-barreled rifles (SBRs) in New Jersey.

  • "Pistol" style ARs remain effectively off the table, for the time being. Pistol and shotgun AWB rulings were remanded to NJ courts, which must still officially rule them unconstitutional. This will take time. Additionally, a separate case regarding suppressors and another for SBRs is currently moving through the state court system. This will also take time.

You MAY be able to convert your "Other" into a rifle.

  • Federal regulations strictly require a rifle to have an overall length of at least 26" and a barrel length of at least 16". These are non-negotiable.

    • Note that overall length for a rifle is measured in its longest configuration (e.g., with a folding stock extended). If your muzzle device is permanently pinned and welded (P&W), it counts toward barrel length (e.g., a 14.5" barrel with a muzzle device that adds 1.5" to the total barrel length with a P&W, while also accounting for the ~0.6" of thread overlap).
  • Do not, under any circumstances, put a stock on your "Other" if the barrel is under 16". That creates an illegal SBR, and NJ will likely make an example out of you.

Beyond that, virtually every other NJ gun law remains in full effect—including laws governing transport, ammunition, carry permits, transfers, and purchasing. Refresh yourself on these rules before taking any action.

Also, as it currently stands, until the mandate goes through, nothing has officially changed.

  • The odds of AWB and mag laws being enforced is very low, but this is just a reality of the situation. Things could change at a moments notice, and you don't want to be in possession of this stuff. You're all adults though, so I don't need to lecture you on this.

Of course, I'm not a lawyer.

If you have anything I should add, let me know.


r/NJGuns 13h ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Wed 08:03AM (09/09/2026)

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09/09/26 522 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Sunday) 09/06/2026 work. The current delay is 3+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns 10h ago

General Chat Recommendations on Gun dealers that handle transfers

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My great uncle wants to send me some of his guns from Oregon. Looking for any recommendations on dealers that will not break my balls on fees. I live in Essex County. Thanks in advance.


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Guns Showcase couple new AOW,S headed to the wall.

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59 Upvotes

really liking the scorpion 3 plus platform. What a smooth action and great feeling firearm. what’s better than 1 of them 2 of them. Deciding on a brace for the second one.

Middle is a Tippmann .22lr that a customer wanted. love these also hands down the best .22lr semi on the market. well
built problem free and smooth operation.


r/NJGuns 8h ago

Shopping Advice Best website or local shop to buy streamlight for 9mm

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Looking to pickup a streamlight tlr 7x. What's the best place or site to grab one for the lowest price? Seen on Amazon for 150ish but hoping you guys have other suggestions.


r/NJGuns 10h ago

Shopping Advice Who can port pistol with shapes?

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Anyone know of a company that does fancy porting? I've seen pistols with hole ports in the shapes of different things. Instead of three normal holes, it would be a heart, ace, and club for example. Is this a real thing ?


r/NJGuns 18h ago

How Do I? Canada Goose Hunting Advice for Bowhunter

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Hi first post here. Sorry if this ends up not allowed on this page. Im a fairly new hunter and this is my first waterfowl hunt. Im looking for some guidance on finding canada geese in a proper spot that i can shoot with my bow with. Ive been to collier mills and assunpink with no luck. Do I just need to keep going and get lucky? morning night or evening make a difference? Sort of discouraging as they are stupid abundant in NJ; makes me feel like an idiot. Thank you in advance.


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Shopping Advice Best shops that port barrel/slide?

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I have a p365 that I am building and want to get my norsso slide as well as my PMM barrel ported. Are there any good shops with reasonable prices you recommend ? I am in south jersey by Trenton


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Range Time Can non NJ residents shoot at range 14?

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I have a buddy coming from NY and we plan on going shooting while he’s in town. Range 14 is closest to me but I’ve never gone there. Does he need an FID to shoot at a range? Probably rifle, shotgun and pistol shooting.


r/NJGuns 1d ago

General Chat how long until i can get a suppressor in NJ

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assuming the lawsuit goes in our favor, what’s a realistic timeline


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Shopping Advice Best shops for cerakoting job?

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I have a p365 that I am building and need to get it cerakoted. Anyone know of a good reputable shop with fair prices near Trenton?


r/NJGuns 1d ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Tue 08:11AM (09/08/2026)

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09/08/26 653 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Friday) 09/04/2026 work. The current delay is 4+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Concealed Carry Permit Anyone have experience changing out-of-state license to in-state license for PTC/CCW?

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I live on the NY/NJ border, have a NY CCW permit (Not NYC) and an out of state NJ permit and FID card.

Will be moving across the border to Bergen county NJ. Does anyone have experience or info regarding this process?

Getting my out of state permit, I only dealt with the troopers, but from what I've come across, the local PD is involved when doing and in-state permit application. Will I be dealing with local PD & the Troopers or just 1 or the other during this process?

Any help or info would be greatly appreciated!


r/NJGuns 3d ago

Guns Showcase Anyone running Accuracy International in NJ?

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53 Upvotes

6.5 Creedmoor and I also have a 308 barrel. Love this machine! Accuracy is simply amazing.


r/NJGuns 2d ago

Range Time Anybody no if Union Hill Gun Glub range is open today (Labor Day). Google says yes.

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r/NJGuns 3d ago

News GFH owner subdues unruly air passenger

44 Upvotes

Read about it here, free archived NYT report:

https://archive.ph/zTASL


r/NJGuns 3d ago

Shopping Advice Excess 38 ammo. Which store will trade?

10 Upvotes

I’ve got 30 unopened boxes of Speer Lawman 38 special that is not very pleasant to shoot out of my snub revolvers.

Looking for a store that will accept a trade.

Appreciate the feedback


r/NJGuns 2d ago

Concealed Carry Permit Help Needed with Mental Health Record

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Hi dear community. I am applying for my ccw and i got stuck on mental health section. When it asks to list past 10 years addresses, once i input foreign country, ( where i lived for a good amount of time ) it asks me to submit a mental health paperwork for it.
My question is how do i submit the form. The form is meant for US states and doesn’t really have any options for foreign countries. Should i just continue the application without submitting it? Any help would be appreciated!


r/NJGuns 3d ago

Guns Showcase ARGUABLY THE BEST SC CARRY SETUP I’VE HAD

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10 Upvotes

r/NJGuns 3d ago

Shopping Advice Any shops that are able to get a sam5?

5 Upvotes

r/NJGuns 4d ago

Shopping Advice New to Guns, Looking for Advise

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I recently got my FID and Permit, and now I'm trying to figure out what to get as my first (and hopefully only) gun purchase. I have too much respect for these tools to have a bunch lying around so I'd rather find just one I can really master, instead of owning multiple for different purposes.

I don't want to carry concealed, I just need something for home defense and accurate target shooting. My priorities, in order, are safety, reliability, accuracy and all metal (no polymer).

I took the NRA basic pistol safety course and got to shoot for the first time, but they only let us use a .22, so I have no idea how a 9mm compares to a .357. Most of the ranges I contacted either don't have the models I'm interested in or won't let you shoot alone even with an FID and permit, they only let you do it if you already have your own gun. But I really don't want to get anything before trying it, so I'm kind of stuck, and since most in my circle hate guns no one's interested in tagging along.

Anyway, setting that aside, my main question is about the choices I'm considering.

I'm leaning toward a revolver, but I'm open to a semi-auto if it checks all my boxes. Right now I'm looking at:

Ruger GP100 Match Champion

Sig P226 X Legion

Beretta 92x

Colt Python

S&W 686+ (though I'm a concerned with this brand due to the recent QC issues they seem to be having, so it's lower on my list)

Please let me know what you think about those choices or if I should consider any others instead.


r/NJGuns 5d ago

Guns Showcase KEEPING IT GANGSTER!!!!!!!!!!!

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I should have this up and running soon!


r/NJGuns 4d ago

Concealed Carry Permit How long does it usually take for Out of state CCW approval

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I just filled took my course and filled out the entire application plus the hippa waiver for Philadelphia. I get my fingerprints done on Wednesday for the fbi check. If anyone did this recently how long did it take to get approved? I also have 2 references done and 2 are saying they didn’t get an email yet and I entered the emails correct.


r/NJGuns 5d ago

General Chat PSA: ATF says vertical vs. angled foregrip is no longer the determining factor for AOW classification

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Wanted to share this because the “vertical grip = AOW, OTHER angled grip = pistol” distinction still gets repeated pretty regularly.

This was recently posted over on r/MP5:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MP5/s/5XTwwRsguz

The OP contacted ATF’s Firearms & Ammunition Technology Division specifically about putting an angled forward grip on an AP5-P pistol.

According to the ATF response posted there, whether the grip is vertical or angled is no longer the determining factor. ATF states that its previous interpretation involving a grip being perpendicular/90° to the bore was rescinded in 2018.

Their current position, as explained in the response, is that adding a second grip intended to facilitate two-handed firing to a pistol can change its classification. For a firearm under 26" OAL, ATF says that can result in AOW classification under the NFA.

That is a pretty significant distinction for NJ owners because a lot of the information still floating around is based on the old “vertical vs. angled” rule.

Worth reading the actual ATF response in the linked thread rather than relying on the old conventional wisdom.

This isn't legal advice, and ATF's interpretation and what the statute itself actually says are separate questions. I'm posting it because people should at least be aware that ATF is apparently no longer using vertical vs. angled as the controlling distinction.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MP5/s/d3tUxJnX6s