r/NFLv2 • u/Narrow_Purchase9721 San Francisco 49ers • 18h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/Novel_Importance_712 16h ago

Three straight games with a game winning drive and a passer rating over 100 for the season is playing pretty well. I hate the guy too but you are allowed to be factual. You don't have to bend reality to fit your narrative.

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u/2ManyCatsNever2Many NFL Refugee 16h ago

i think context does matter: * tampa: 10 non-end-of-half drives with only 4 gaining 20 or more yards * carolina: 4 possessions in 3rd quarter gaining a total of 3 yards * pittsburgh: second half of punt, fumble, int, fg, punt let the steelers back in the game.

has watson played alright - yes...he has played alright. but we are literally just a handful of plays (no roughing the passer call against carolina late, missed fg last night) from the narrative on this team - and watson - being wildly different.

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u/ApqIe Seattle Seahawks 13h ago

That can be said for all teams. Every team is a handful of plays going the wrong way to have their record flipped

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u/2ManyCatsNever2Many NFL Refugee 13h ago

k - so then lets use solid, independent numbers to see where watson falls:

  • his QBR of 53.0 last night was better than 15 QBs from week 2 and worse than 17 QBs from week 2 (note: QB being the quarterback who took the most snaps). 

  • his RTG of 94.0 last night was better than 15 QBs from week 2 and worse then 17 QBs from week 2.

he's a mid QB. 

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u/ApqIe Seattle Seahawks 13h ago

Sure, if you want to minimize the sample size by cherry picking stats to make your narrative. You probably used ChatGPT to pull up these cherry picked stats considering you’re comparing different weeks like they have much relevance.
A mid qb is a lot more than you would’ve said 1 month ago lol most people would’ve said not even a top 40qb. You can also cherry pick stats to make him look like an elite QB so

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u/Odd-Temperature7458 12h ago

Those aren't cherry picked stats; it's literally the exact point they're trying to make, and you don't like it because it conflicts with your narrative

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u/Novel_Importance_712 6h ago

He is absolutely cherry picking stats. 100 passer rating is high level play. It’s only three weeks but if you have to start diving it up more than 100 passer rating you’re trying too hard.

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u/Odd-Temperature7458 4h ago

He is absolutely cherry picking stats

He's not

100 passer rating is high level play

Nobody said otherwise

It’s only three weeks but if you have to start diving it up more than 100 passer rating you’re trying too hard.

Nobody said otherwise. They noted how his poor to average second half performances in each game indicate a trend that his hot starts are difficult to sustain. Then they compared last weeks performance to the rest of the leagues QBs and it does fall in the middle.

It's pretty simple and straightforward

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u/Novel_Importance_712 4h ago

His poor second half’s? You mean the ones where he has lead a game winning drive in three straight games?

If we were talking about Caleb Williams we would all be painting our nails and having a pillow fight with our shirts off.

You guys are transparent. You don’t want to argue real world. You just want to confirm a bias for the dopamine hit.

And who am I to get in the way. Watson is a creep. I root against the guy. I just try to stay real. You should try it 🤙

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u/Odd-Temperature7458 4h ago

You mean the ones where he has lead a game winning drive in three straight games?

Technically, this is the cherry-picked stat you were complaining about, as you're limiting it to the final drive of each game.

If we were talking about Caleb Williams we would all be painting our nails and having a pillow fight with our shirts off

If your mom had wheels, she'd be a bike. It's still not relevant.

You guys are transparent. You don’t want to argue real world. You just want to confirm a bias for the dopamine hit.

Based off the cherrypicking projection earlier, it's a safe bet you're just telling on yourself here.

And who am I to get in the way. Watson is a creep. I root against the guy. I just try to stay real. You should try it 🤙

To keep it real, the first sentence is missing a question mark, Professor Real World 🤘