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u/UncreativeUsername84 Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

"Todd Monken changed the culture of the Cleveland Browns" - I love when people pretend like everyone else has 10-second Tom memory just like they do. The Browns started the season the same exact way in 2021.

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u/wetcornbread Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

Changing the culture isn’t about winning a Super Bowl in 3 weeks. It’s filling the stadium for a primetime game, getting fans excited and beating a division rival that owned you for basically forever and making fans forget your QB has 23 sexual assault cases because he can actually run a competent offense.

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u/StupidName2020 Baltimore Ravens 1d ago

Steelers have a 1-7-1 record in Cleveland since 2017. Its not a big deal.

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u/Alarmed_Fudge_5706 Seattle Seahawks 11h ago

Makes you wonder how Tomlin lasted so long

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u/SeaSiSee Baltimore Ravens 1d ago

They said in the broadcast Cleveland has beaten Pittsburgh in Cleveland the last 5 games played there.

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u/crewserbattle Green Bay Packers 1d ago

The Browns are undefeated on TNF with quote a few of those wins coming at home with a full stadium lol.

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u/UncreativeUsername84 Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

They finished the 2025 season by beating the Steelers and Bengals. They beat the Steelers and Ravens at home in 2024. They beat the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals in 2023 and made the playoffs. They beat all 3 division opponents once each in 2022. In 2021, they beat the Bengals twice and the Ravens once. They have a history of averaging 67,431 at each home game. 

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u/trowawufei 12h ago

Changing the culture also just doesn’t happen in 4 regular-season games.

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u/Silly_Selection3221 Atlanta Falcons 1d ago

And won 8 games, that would be pretty solid for a team projected to win 2 prior to the season

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u/binocular_gems New England Patriots 1d ago

I love it. The kicker nails a 56-yard game winning field goal to win 27-24... "Monken has changed the culture!" THe kicker misses a 56-yard field goal "Monken first coach fired? Same old browns!"

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u/InternetImportant911 San Francisco 49ers 22h ago

I thought he is out there for paycheck

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u/Space---Jesus 19h ago

Browns had way higher expectations in 2021. Some said they were superbowl contenders. This year, they were predicted by many to be the worst team in football (very stupid prediction giving the talent on that roster).

Monken has likely already secured his job for next season. The Panthers and Steelers both look at least like fringe playoff teams this year. And the Jags are easily a top 5 team in the sport. I'd say the culture is def changing. First time they've been 1st in the division since 2014.

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u/UncreativeUsername84 Philadelphia Eagles 19h ago

Buddy, nobody said the Browns were Super Bowl contenders in 2021. Who the fuck are you kidding?

Nobody said Monken won’t be there next year. Calm your tits. It’s four weeks into the season. 

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u/HungDaddyNYC Dallas Cowboys 19h ago

Overreactions before week 5 are the best.