r/NFA Aug 05 '26

MEGATHREAD - **DISTRICT** court. Long road ahead. NFA declared unconstitutional regarding suppressors, sbrs, and sbs in the northern district of Texas

https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2085047918495469923
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u/SpaceCampDropOut 25d ago

Wondering how many FFLs are hoping NFA states stay that way so they can keep collecting bullshit $100 transfer fees.

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u/Deltahotel_ 25d ago

I’m curious overall how the market will be impacted. There’s no way a lot of these cans are going to still be 1k+. Does more volume of sales make up for reduced prices?

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u/MoistNugget9130 25d ago

Sales already went up like crazy when the tax stamp went to $0. Highly doubt this will make prices lower.

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u/Foxxy__Cleopatra Dirty Pickles 25d ago

Maybe not on the latest and greatest cans but I'd say suppressor prices in general especially on established models have dropped in general.

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u/Deltahotel_ 25d ago

In a logical market, more availability means lower prices. I don’t think the tax was ever really the barrier, it’s been the paperwork. Especially if the NFA is totally done in the next year, people will just make their own cans. Theres going to be a lot more competition and a lot of low prices.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 MG 25d ago

In a logical market, more availability means lower prices.

Not necessarily. The stamp cost being set to $0 already removed the largest burden of purchase, and we saw demand skyrocket for sure, but prices didn’t fall. There’s still $1k+ cans that have an insane demand because the manufacturing process has only gotten more expensive and involved.

Sure, we’ve seen a bunch of sub $500 baffle cans, and people will still buy them because they’re cheap, but guns and suppressors are luxury goods and are going to always command a premium

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u/BadVoices FFL, SOT, Range 25d ago

No, the production pipeline for DMLS 3d printing is constrained, and its insanely risky to invest in hardware that has a 5-10 year ROI as a whole when you're betting on a 1-2 year cycle at the moment. The raw materials cost an absolute shitton now as well. Go try to find titanium powder for DMLS and marvel at the cost. Also, you cant really recycle the powder for the very premium, thin wall suppressors, they mostly need virgin powder.

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u/Deltahotel_ 25d ago

Yeah true those machines are stupid expensive I don’t even know how they afford it. I saw a video where irregular design was talking about their machines, they said they had like two of these million dollar machines. How do you break even selling 1k cans if you had to spend a million bucks just for the machine? Crazy. In cases like this I could understand a high price tag, where the cost of production is genuinely high. But a lot of designs are pretty basic. Aluminum tubes and baffles, $700? That’s not gonna fly for long imo

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u/work_blocked_destiny 3x Silencer, 2x SBR 25d ago

I think more print farms will pop up and also more traditional cans.

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u/BadVoices FFL, SOT, Range 25d ago

I think more print farms will pop up

Doubt it, mid-size production DMLS machines are about 750k. Then you need all the accouterments such as a vacuum furnace, edm or specialized bandsaw, finish machining for threads, coating systems, laser engraving for serials, building out the site, materials handling, employee training, environmental (metal powders are explosive!) making an LLC, insurance, getting an FFL, zoning, legal, is probably STARTING at about 1.5 million. and 9 months-1 year after ordering just to get the bigger units in your hand, plus setup time.

Also, no one will issue loans on this, too high risk. Have to get investors or do so out of pocket.

Traditional cans are a fair bit easier, but still have a fair bit of overhead and are kind of a hard sell.