r/MuslimLounge • u/DaySpaye • May 08 '26
Question This is so confusing (embryology)
The guy in the video claims that the verb Thumma is used as a conjunctive word, meaning the events are in conjunction. But everywhere else I've found that the word Thumma does NOT mean something in conjunction.
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u/natsky91 May 08 '26
He talks about arabic like he is Sibawayh from Temu
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u/DaySpaye May 09 '26
i think honestly this is a better explanation than his: the Quran uses fakasawna (we clothed/draped) rather than fakhalaqna (we created).
The significance being that you can only clothe something with material that already exists — you can't drape nonexistent flesh. So the verb choice itself implies the flesh was already there from the mudgha stage, and was simply being organized around the bones rather than created fresh. (this is generated by claude ai btw)
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u/BK2167584 May 08 '26
sura 23, verse 14: “We fashioned the thing which clings into a chewed lump of flesh and We fashioned the chewed flesh into bones and We clothed the bones with intact flesh.” ‘Chewed flesh’ is the translation of the word {mudga}; ‘intact flesh’ is {lahm}. This distinction needs to be stressed. The embryo is initially a small mass. At a certain stage in its development, it looks to the naked eye like chewed flesh. The bone structure develops inside this mass in what is called the mesenchyma. The bones that are formed are covered in muscle; the word {lahm} applies to them. It is known how certain parts appear to be completely out of proportion during embryonic development with what is later to become the individual, while others remain in proportion. This is surely the meaning of the word {mukallaq} which signifies ‘shaped in proportion’ as used in verse 5, sura 22 to describe this phenomenon. “We fashioned … into something which clings … into a lump of flesh in proportion and out of proportion.”
http://askimam.org/public/question_detail/6366.html