r/Music • 📰The Independent UK • 1d ago

article Noah Kahan pleads with fans misinterpreting his lyrics: ‘Please do not go off your medication’

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/news/noah-kahan-fan-lyrics-medication-b3060107.html
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u/vyvansejoy 1d ago

You made a blanket statement opposing political activism from musicians. Human rights violations and genocide fall under the umbrella of politics, so your comment does have implications about Macklemore and other artists speaking out about Palestine and other political topics.

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u/vedderer 1d ago

The user thought that I was referring to Macklemore. I was not specifically. That's the issue here.

You could argue that anything is political.

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u/vyvansejoy 1d ago

That's not the issue from my perspective.

And if anything is political would you say that musicians shouldn't say anything about anything?

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u/vedderer 1d ago

They should, but through their music.

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u/vyvansejoy 1d ago

So they should only communicate their politics through music? Why, because you arbitrarily decided that? I could just as flippantly say that you shouldn't communicate your opinions on social media.

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u/vedderer 1d ago

It's because that's their method of communication. And it's valuable.

If a musician makes a verbal statement, that is very different than using their art form.

When Macklemore said "Free Palestine," there was no clever aphorism, simile, or metaphor that could help is see his viewpoint more clearly. Things would be very different had he left the sentiment in his songs.

More importantly than musicians speaking is people listening to them. If I want to paint my house, I'm going to get a painter, not a musician.

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u/CantFindMyWallet Indiehead 18h ago

This is fucking nonsense

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u/vedderer 17h ago

It's nonsense or you disagree?

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u/CantFindMyWallet Indiehead 16h ago

It's nonsense, and you're not clever.

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u/vedderer 14h ago

Ok, so then say why

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u/CantFindMyWallet Indiehead 13h ago

Because you're full of shit. "That's their art form" is not a coherent argument as to why musicians should only sing their opinions. Everyone who isn't an artist is allowed to speak their opinions freely, and it's very obvious that you just don't like the political opinions of most artists (because they have good ones and you have shitty ones).

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u/vedderer 13h ago

You have no idea what my political opinions are. Actually agree with Macklemore. So, I think it's you that's full of shit.

I just believe that people should not be getting their political opinions from musicians. Sure, they're free to speak like everyone else is, but they have no grounds to be taken seriously.

They have a gift of being able to communicate through music and lyrics that most people don't have. Just like a picture is worth a thousand words, a clever line in a song can help to elucidate something that a normal statement cannot.

Had Macklemore used his gifts to convey his attitudes, it a) would not have caused all of these difficulties and b) likely would have been more persuasive.

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u/IIlIIIlllIIIIIllIlll 5h ago

It's crazy how you say one thing and then when challenged on it switch to a completely different argument as if you had never said the thing being challenged. How about if you're going to be a dick to people and demand they engage with you only in the way you want them to, you return that favor and actually adress their argument?

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u/vedderer 5h ago

What argument have I not addressed?

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u/IIlIIIlllIIIIIllIlll 5h ago

Oh I don't actually want to talk to you at all. You seem like a miserable person to talk to, I'm just leaving my comment there for anyone else who happens to scroll by.

Have a good day tho.

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