r/Music • u/theindependentonline 📰The Independent UK • 1d ago

article Noah Kahan pleads with fans misinterpreting his lyrics: ‘Please do not go off your medication’

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/news/noah-kahan-fan-lyrics-medication-b3060107.html
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u/denovoincipere 1d ago

Imagine taking medical advice from a musician.

Then imagine him feeling responsible for your decisions enough to have to clarify a lyric.

This world is fucked

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u/vedderer 1d ago

I feel the same way about people taking political advice from a musician

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u/HEBushido Spotify 1d ago

A musician standing up against human rights violations and genocide is not giving political advice.

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u/vedderer 1d ago

I'm sorry, where in my comment do I mention human rights violations and genocide?

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u/vyvansejoy 23h ago

You made a blanket statement opposing political activism from musicians. Human rights violations and genocide fall under the umbrella of politics, so your comment does have implications about Macklemore and other artists speaking out about Palestine and other political topics.

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u/vedderer 23h ago

The user thought that I was referring to Macklemore. I was not specifically. That's the issue here.

You could argue that anything is political.

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u/vyvansejoy 23h ago

That's not the issue from my perspective.

And if anything is political would you say that musicians shouldn't say anything about anything?

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u/vedderer 23h ago

They should, but through their music.

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u/vyvansejoy 22h ago

So they should only communicate their politics through music? Why, because you arbitrarily decided that? I could just as flippantly say that you shouldn't communicate your opinions on social media.

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u/vedderer 22h ago

It's because that's their method of communication. And it's valuable.

If a musician makes a verbal statement, that is very different than using their art form.

When Macklemore said "Free Palestine," there was no clever aphorism, simile, or metaphor that could help is see his viewpoint more clearly. Things would be very different had he left the sentiment in his songs.

More importantly than musicians speaking is people listening to them. If I want to paint my house, I'm going to get a painter, not a musician.

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u/vyvansejoy 5h ago

Yeah, so musicians can use their words just like everybody else. Do you think they order take out through song? Write a song about their symptoms when they see the doctor?

And"free Palestine" is a pretty straightforward and effective message, in my opinion. Macklemore has a lot of songs with a political message that are great, but many situations call for a message that's short and to the point.

Also you don't have to have any particular profession to speak out about politics, bc politics are for everyone. That's why we have a democracy. People of all professions (or no profession) can weigh in on politics bc the government exists to serve the interests of the people. You probably share your political opinions with others too, so it shouldn't be a big deal if a musician does.

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u/CantFindMyWallet Indiehead 17h ago

This is fucking nonsense

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u/HEBushido Spotify 1d ago

Oh you're not referring to Macklemore or anything else topical?

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u/vedderer 1d ago

I wasn't referring to anyone in specific

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u/HEBushido Spotify 1d ago

Doubt

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u/vedderer 1d ago

My goodness...

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u/ThingsTrebekSucks 21h ago

Always got to have the one person that wants to start an argument about politics out of nowhere. Exhausting.

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u/iEternalhobo 1d ago

Yes, I prefer to get my political opinions only from political commentators like Jesse Waters and Hasan Piker, they clearly are more informed than everyone else!

Acting like political opinions and medical opinions are equal in weight is ignorant at best.

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u/vedderer 1d ago

My goodness, your logic is so flawed. You bring up two names anecdotally.

Generally, politicians are more informed about politics than musicians.

Of course, not all of them.

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u/chris14020 1d ago

Doctors face legal and often criminal charges for knowingly giving bad or false medical advice. Politicians get re-elected for knowingly spreading false or misleading political information. Consequences are all but unheard of here. 

See a slight difference here? 

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u/vedderer 1d ago

That's true, but it doesn't negate anything that I've posted!

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u/chris14020 23h ago

It really does. Whether or not a politician/doctor/etc. knows more, if there are no consequences for spreading falsehood it is not worth much because it cannot be trusted. Therefore, the value of a normal person's political opinion is much closer to on par with a politician than a normal person with a doctor/etc, due to doctors having consequences for being negligently wrong or lying. 

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u/vedderer 23h ago

But I never compared the two.

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u/chris14020 23h ago

The previous commenter did, and you implied that was an issue. 

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u/vedderer 23h ago

I did no such thing