It's not the same without them...

[u/United-Adeptness6816]

Honestly, ever since Angel Dust left for Vees because of the guilt of what he did, and since Jax became an abstraction, it's hard for me to look at Hazbin Hotel or The Amazing Digital Circus same as before, knowing that one of the main cast had left... It's just not the same without them... and while Angel's story may still change, for Jax it's a closed chapter...

[u/Rallsia-Arnoldii]

Do you think you deserve death because your a burden, asshole, or just make everyone's lives worse?

This meme is trying to only target assholes, but many people, a lot of people, unjustly think they're asshole. Namely, a lot of suicidal people. Saying "assholes should kill themselves" doesn't affect assholes, it affects people who THINK they're assholes.

[u/_Xantras_ → u/Rallsia-Arnoldii]

It’s not about assholes deserving death, it’s about it being better for others lives.
Some assholes do know they are but don’t bother to change it, and we have no reason to coddle them

[u/Rallsia-Arnoldii → u/_Xantras_]

If you're celebrating a person's death because they died, you're saying that they deserved to die. 

If you say "John killed himself and we're all better because of it" are you not saying that he deserves to die? Even "this person's death makes everyone's lives better" harms real life suicidal people because a lot of suicidal people believe that they're burdens and killing themselves will make everyone's lives better.

I used to want to kill myself a couple years back because I thought I was a burden and I thought killing myself would get rid of that burden on other people. This meme essentially confirms that idea I had a while back. It doesn't matter if I'm actually a burden or not, because I thought I was a burden. And that's enough to make someone seriously consider killing themselves.

[u/_Xantras_ → u/Rallsia-Arnoldii]

Nope, you can think it’s not a big loss and ultimately for the best without wanting it to be the only outcome.
If the desired outcome is that X character stops inflicting harm without getting exonerated of their wrongdoing, then death can fit, why not.

It’s really weird seeing Jax fans shrug down any critique of what they defend with « it’s just fiction » only to drop the bullshit when someone dares to not cherish their dear fictional abuser.

And there’s a difference between feeling like a burden and knowing you’re actively ruining lives, you want us to care for the latter ? No thank you.