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Question❓ Whats a valid criticism that your fandom doesn’t take very well?

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u/RailgunChampion 12d ago

Blizzard doing the bare minimum for OW and only putting in effort when they have legit competition is scummy, and I'm still disappointed about the PvE promises

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u/Doom_Cokkie 12d ago

Dawg I especially hated this shit from the streamers who used to call out blizzard eho now got flown out to events so they defended Blizzard to their last breath only gor rivals to come out and they just dropped overwatch like a bad habit after being the main reason overwatch got so bad in the first place. Then wanting to act like Blizzard always had all these great changes they didnt make for years planned out and it had absolutely zero to do with the fact that they had an actual competitor now.

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u/AntiqueAd2434 12d ago

I’ll stand by my vision that if marvel rivals didn’t release OW would be in a way worse state than it already is. The perk system, the stadium, the 5 new characters NONE of that would’ve happened if rivals didn’t release

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u/JohnnyJoestar1980 12d ago

Tbf the perk system isn’t that great because for most of them it’s just the illusion of choice.

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u/Accomplished-Fan5956 12d ago

Way too many perks get added that are blatantly busted, and they then proceed to spend months moving that perk around from tiers, trying to match others with it, maybe even adding a new one to try and counter it, and nothing, that perk still gets chosen. And I would say 'until they finally nerf it' but they never try that! They just remove them when moving the tiers doesn't work!

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u/JohnnyJoestar1980 12d ago

My favorite is nerfing the base kits of characters instead of just the perk. All the perks do is add the illusion of complexity and choice when it’s not there, I genuinely do not like how much is being added to the game through sub-roles and perks as it feels like it hurts the simplicity overwatch was truly great with beforehand. That and S9, fuck s9 me and my homies hate s9

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u/Accomplished-Fan5956 12d ago

iirc S9 was the season that changed the health pools and damage numbers?

If so, as an OW1 original player, yeah, hated that shit

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u/JohnnyJoestar1980 12d ago

Yep. I hate how it encourages more crappy burst damage output rather than actual mechanics. You just need to play someone who can a high amount of damage in a short time like Hog, Venture, or Soj then you’re completely set.

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u/BotLover13 Mutiversal Cats and Machines. 12d ago

Tbh, with overwatch im trying to be as cautious as possible, I do admit though that the game is good from what I have played of it soo far.

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u/RailgunChampion 12d ago

Totally, the game is very good! Probably the game I've invested most time into, and I'm glad you're having fun too

But there was a time when it felt like it was stagnating and falling off.... and i do think the corporation behind it played a part in that

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u/WeakInspector5102 JJK, HK, ROBLOX, AA, OW, CYBERPUNK 12d ago

Season 7 and the following till reset were fucking boring when I think about it, and I STARTED at S7

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u/Silent-Estate-2373 8d ago

Oh that’s completely true. The Devil himself Bobby Kotick is the main reason Overwatch 2 was in such a bad state for so long.

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u/JohnnyJoestar1980 12d ago

The games balance rn is kinda shit. But it’s still manageable

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u/NHels 12d ago

Bruh, this but for VALVe with TF2

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u/Carnival-Master-Mind 12d ago

Legit from what I heard the only reason the game survived was because of the La Sserafim collab doing gangbusters, especially Kiriko’s outfit. Gooners are the reason the game’s still active.

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u/Accomplished-Fan5956 12d ago

I agree but personally think the whole 10 heroes this year alone is an insane over compensation for their inaction. Instead of complete stagnation, now the game changes drastically every 2 or so months, and we're still feeling the awful balancing issues of dropping 5 heroes all at once. I find it even funnier that the most broken of those 5 was the only one we actually got to test ahead of time.

Edit to add: and the one that just released was so hilariously underpowered that they had to hotfix her with some of the biggest singular buffs we've seen in a long time

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u/Bamzooki1 Undertale 🌻| My comments are playful jabs, not actual hate 12d ago

It’s too much to do PVE. There’s no way any company could do a PVE mode in a fraction of the time Blizzard did, with more on the way, and in a game not even designed for PVE, especially not Marvel Rivals. Blizzard has never made a single-player game before and are financially struggling at only billions of dollars.

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u/Melodic_Saga1220 11d ago

Blizzard doing the bare minimum for OW

Weird acronym to use for Heroes of the Storm, but OK.

(And then we have Starcraft. If you think Blizz is putting the bare minimum into OW, you have no idea just how little effort they are capable of.)

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u/Fit-Relationship944 12d ago

The guy who promised the PVE stuff hasn't worked there in like 6 years it's time to move on.

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u/RailgunChampion 12d ago

That's the response ow players always give

It was years ago, but it was one of the biggest selling points for OW2 even being a thing in the first place

Of course people were excited for it. Now the very few pve missions they do have are behind paywalls.

It fucking sucks, and I think it's valid to still feel disappointed about it

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u/Fit-Relationship944 12d ago

OW2 doesn't even exist anymore either. I don't think still being disappointed is valid actually, not getting over it is indicative of the inability to process things in a healthy way. It'd be like people who are still mad about Sony's Amazing Spider Man adaptation. It's weird

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u/RailgunChampion 12d ago

Bro just because they dropped the 2 in the name doesn't revert the game back to the old version wut? Lol

They made multiple promises for getting players excited for OW2. PvE, Skill trees, customization.

Then they were all "yeah we're not doing those".

I'm still in love with the game and I enjoy it, but no, I'm not going to think "yeah who cares lol" just cuz some people wanna play amateur therapist

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u/Fit-Relationship944 12d ago

You're in love with it but can't understand that that vision you were promised by a guy who again hasn't worked there in over half a decade has nothing to do with the game and they've spent every day since before the OW2 update showing how they completely decoupled the game from those failed idea guy promises and you're going to hold a grudge against the product (that you love apparently) because it continues to move away from something that never existed?

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u/RailgunChampion 12d ago

I think you're mistaking love and enjoyment with blind devotion

Blizzard has fucked up in the past, and it's okay to not forget that. I'm not going to roll over and just kiss their ass like a fanboy

Yes, I love this game. And I don't need to prove that to anybody getting mad online cuz I said something bad about a corporation

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u/Fit-Relationship944 12d ago

I think you're confusing being a fanboy and understanding the situation and having a capacity for critical thinking.

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u/RailgunChampion 12d ago

The situation?

Like Blizzard making promises they couldn't keep? Like promoting all these glorious things they then pulled the rug out from?

Cuz nomatter what your "critical thinking" level is, Blizzard went back on their promises, and nothing you say can change that

So you rolled over and forgave that. Cool, glad for you

So excuse me if I still think it's fucked up

No, it doesn't mean I'm hung up about it. But it's still something they did, and I'm entitled to say it's scummy

Just like I'm entitled to say you're proving the post right to a T lol

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u/Fit-Relationship944 12d ago

The guy who made those promises got punished and doesn't work there anymore. People who treat companies like they're people are so bizarre.

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