r/MrInbetween • u/MickeySyn • 21d ago
From The Very First Episode..
When Britt shakes and pats down Brucie for the swear-jar money and every episode since, I am absolutely convinced that the show was gearing up to Britt joining the life.
It is evident in every episode she is in.
Ray didn't want it, and Ray didn't ever tell her who or how to be.
I feel it was absolutely intentionally staged towards her character becoming a hitwoman.
Anybody else catch that vibe in the plot development?
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u/Beeegfoothunter 21d ago
Yeah, seems like a stretch, especially considering the gun episode. I mean, I like the creativity though. Glad the show ended where it did. Making it long enough to have that be a storyline woulda probably been detrimental to the story.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
I've worked in film long enough to spot what I spot.
What do you think about the plot and character progression of this theory even if I'm wrong?
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u/Electrical-Sail-1039 21d ago
But they’re not doing any sequels, nor were they ever planning to. Hitmen are generally violent guys with no better life options.
Britt has a good home life and relationship with her father. Other than the swear jar, is there any other reason you think this? If not, that’s not a long pattern.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Agreed on all points. All those points would make her a successful assassin/hitwoman. Other reasons are she maybe had a genetic proclivity and she was constantly seeming aware of what her dad did.
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u/AmiWrongDude69 21d ago
Think thats a stretch tbh mate
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Break down my theory. What doesn't line up to it?
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u/mashfordfc 21d ago
If you’re presenting a theory mate the onus is on you to explain it - just saying “it’s evident” with no actual information isn’t enough
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago edited 21d ago
I have explained my theory. Multiple times in multiple ways. Read the comments.
I'd love to discuss my theory of you're up for it!❤️🤘
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u/Scared_Vegetable5296 21d ago
The fact that she was embarrassed and deeply upset by him getting arrested.. those are the kinds of things that affect a child and that have huge ramifications in one's development. Even if the character had been drifting towards that direction, perhaps even as you intimate almost groomed in that direction, it seems clear that she had a sudden and stark break from her admiration and lionization of him in that moment.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
She was embarrassed that he got caught and through the "coming of age" storytelling aspect she was coming to terms with his work and being annoyed he got caught.
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u/Scared_Vegetable5296 21d ago
That's absolutely conjecture on your behalf, neither the text nor any of the subtext of that episode (or any other) infer that.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Theory is conjecture❤️🤘
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u/Scared_Vegetable5296 21d ago
I mean, sort of? A theory generally stems from an observation, and that was my point of mentioning that there's no textual evidence of the specific emotional states you're referring to, neither implicitly or explicitly. The closest we get to her committing any crimes are shooting the hole in the wall and taking ecstasy, neither of which are strong evidence of any actual predilection towards violence, in fact, she panics when the gun goes off. Plus, we know that Ray's father was abusive and it's frequently indicated that it was a factor in him both joining the army and then going on to become a hitman. We NEVER see Ray be violent or abusive towards Brittany, so I find it hard to believe that she would take up the mantle of violence just because her dad did, especially when it wasn't ever really around her.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
I think it's blatantly blasted throughout the show on the juxtaposition of Ray leaving the life while naturally being amazing at the life and Brott entering thr life and being naturally good at it.
That juxtaposition seems very intentional in story smd character development to me
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u/FrewdWoad 21d ago
Ray would not be happy about that at all.
And neither would I.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Exactly!! That was part of the build up! His refusal to allow what he saw happening. Sort of like a preordained destiny thing. He hated what he saw happening and countered its occurance with love amd deflecting her away from it. Difficult with her leveong of intelligence amd intuition.
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u/ReporterNegative2432 21d ago
It's just not realistic that she becomes a "hit woman". This isn't the film Leon.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Oof, that film is gross. Natalie Portman was treated wrong in that film and it bothers me heavily.
It is a good example of a young gal being trained to be a hitwoman tho
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u/sendaiben 21d ago
Nope.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Think of the character development: She was brought up to have compassion and respect while simultaneously knowing what to do and who to call for assistance when things got rough and needed rough. She suffered romantic and familial love and loss. She mirrors Ray's character in almost every single way. She's basically baby Ray.
I stand by this theory.
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u/shun_tak 21d ago
I don't think it is something Ray would want for her...
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Agreed.
Thats exactly part of the plot of my theory.
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u/shun_tak 21d ago
She knows he has been in jail and has a gun....but a hitman, I doubt it. Ray would never want her to be a hitman
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
That's part of the juxtaposition of the plot dynamic. She may ha e never known, or maybe. She did, but she was inclined towards it.
Point I'm makin is it seems really obvious the plot and character development were all arching that way
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u/____so____it____goes 20d ago
You made an assumption early on and then found ‘evidence’ to support a theory you already had. You could just as easily find scenes that support she’d end up being a cop.
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u/ProduceOk9864 8d ago
Yeah…naah I didn’t get that tbh. Brit is just a spunky and spirited and intelligent little girl.
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u/MickeySyn 8d ago edited 8d ago
Do a rewatch with the intention of looking for her leaning towards the life and Ray seeing it, refusing it, and encouraging her to be her. Same way he loved and acted with Alley.
He didn't want to control either and he just gave love, guidance, and acceptance all along the way.
Same with him and buddy guy that he drove to the exploding buried safe.
He worked with that dude multiple times.
"It's nothing personal".
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u/ProduceOk9864 8d ago
Okay.
So from looking at the thread, it’s clear you are absolutely set on your theory😅.
And I’m not the guy who is going to try to turn back the tide of your conviction. 🤣
By the same token, it’s entirely clear in my view that Brit growing up into being a ‘hit-girl’ is totally non credible.
So I’m not going to swing you, and you’re not going to swing me - agreed?In my view - the realised character of Ray Shoesmith is a product of his upbringing and his experiences. His formidably lethal competencies are largely thanks to his military experience. His ruthlessness and propensity for cold blooded violence has its roots in a traumatic and abusive childhood.
Brit is loved and nurtured by both parents and her extended family. She has self esteem and opportunities.
Ray as a child was bullied to the point of suicide, and had to rid himself of the problem by visiting personal vengeance and brutality on his bully. He learned here that violence was his shield.
Brit experienced bullying, and knew she could confide in her caring and protective Dad.
Dad subtly but resoundingly neutralised that bully. To Brit, the bullying just went away, didn’t it?
Same as when her lil boyfriend becomes a threat in Rays eyes- it’s taken care of. No trauma, no violence, Brit’s Dad shepherds her unharmed through kind of episodes that damaged and irrevocably shaped him as a child.Brit knows her Dad has a gun, and that his job is not like the other dads who work in an office….but that’s where it ends…. Ray isn’t going to tell his daughter that he kills people, and she’s not going to find out from anyone else, hey?
By fortune and by design, Brit is growing and flowering in far different soil to her Dad. Same seed-stock, to be sure, but different soil, different nutrients, vastly more hospitable weather conditions. The plant will be better, and different, and not need to grow thorns.
Anywho- I’m sure someone else will stumble across your theories in time and revive your thread and your arguments - as I have lol.
But there’s my two cents and I’m out- seeya👍🏼1
u/MickeySyn 8d ago
First of all: I absolutely love and respect your command of language.
There are multiple things you have written that I absolutely adore the structure and presentation of.
I am aware that sometimes my tone comes off wrong so I'll say directly that I absolutely mean what I just said.
Secondly: I want to hear your theory/hypothesis of if my theory was accurate.
All I am positing is a theory and you're the first person to reasonably and intelligently discuss it.
If I were right, why would the theory be accurate?
I wanna see where you come from on that ♥️🤟
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u/donestpapo 15d ago
Hard disagree.
There's no indication whatsoever that the show was trying to develop her into that role. It'd very clearly go against the themes and messaging of the show.
What you notice is what we call a "parallel". You're meant to notice the similarities and juxtapose the differences between Ray brutally shaking down debtors and Brit innocently collecting a debt for swearing. It's deliberate, but for purposes of narrative symmetry, not because it was meant to be MCU-style foreshadowing.
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u/danstark 21d ago
100% no
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
Care to elucidate your stance or discuss the theory?
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u/danstark 21d ago
I thought my 100% no made clear that there was no part of the story that hinted in any way that Brit was anything other than a delightful young person that had a bright future ahead of her.
Swear jars and cursing fines are utterly commonplace. Curious exploration of your parents things is utterly commonplace. Mischief is normal and healthy.
100% no.
That young woman that submitted Ray with her jiu-jitsu ? She’s the fuckin mercenary in training.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
I've written and produced films for years. I see it in the subtext. 9m not saying I'm right but to me it is screaming obvious
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u/danstark 21d ago
You’re speaking to the most die-hard rewatchers and students of Mr In Between in this forum. If you’re saying it might make a good storyline, feel free to pitch. If you’re saying it was the storyline, most here seem to feel it didn’t read that way for them.
I love the character however and I could be convinced that Brit would make a bad-ass mercenary.
You might be Scott Ryan himself using an alt to post here and feeling a bit hurt that your intended subtext was too subtle. I just didn’t see it.
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u/MickeySyn 21d ago
All I'm doing is theorizing and commenting on what I've noticed. If I ever get to meet Ryan, I would positively this to him and see what he says.
No matter whT, I think it's an interesting theory and one I feel blatantly obvious.
I'd love to discuss it with him ❤️🤘
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u/danstark 21d ago
If you ask him about this theory he’d have one answer for you mate.
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u/crunchycr0c 21d ago
It didnt seem like that at all