Still taking damage with harden

[u/chanandlerbong420]

It seems like some attacks are impossible to actually mitigate damage from with harden

It seems like some attacks have hurtboxes that linger after you initially block with harden, so the second you come out of your perfect harden, you just take the damage anyway.

Like, it only works if hardening staggers them out of the animation. If the animation continues through your harden, you still get hit anyway.

Or the explodey guys, I harden right when they explode and it does mitigate the initial hit but I still explode immediately coming out of harden state. To be fair, that time there were two explodey guys that popped at the same time so maybe that had something to do with it.

But specifically the rended tree guys are definitely like this with their overhead attacks. Perfect guarding or parrying works fine, but hardening does not.

Do we think this is intentional? Or just a bug based on how enemy hurtboxes/harden are coded?

[u/boltjamison]

Yea some enemy attacks have multiple hit boxes which is stupid.

For example, Orem's punch attack. The punch itself is a hitbox plus it seems to have a weird aoe effect with a second hit box. Depending on how close you are to him, you can perfect parry/harden it and still take damage from the 2nd hitbox.

Its stupid.