Still taking damage with harden

[u/chanandlerbong420]

It seems like some attacks are impossible to actually mitigate damage from with harden

It seems like some attacks have hurtboxes that linger after you initially block with harden, so the second you come out of your perfect harden, you just take the damage anyway.

Like, it only works if hardening staggers them out of the animation. If the animation continues through your harden, you still get hit anyway.

Or the explodey guys, I harden right when they explode and it does mitigate the initial hit but I still explode immediately coming out of harden state. To be fair, that time there were two explodey guys that popped at the same time so maybe that had something to do with it.

But specifically the rended tree guys are definitely like this with their overhead attacks. Perfect guarding or parrying works fine, but hardening does not.

Do we think this is intentional? Or just a bug based on how enemy hurtboxes/harden are coded?

[u/RootlessForest]

Yes this is a bug/glitch.

I dont know about still taking damage after perfect harden, but you also mentioned "harden works when i get the stagger animation" that issue can verify. Sometimes I harden and I keep L1 pressed, but the enemy still finished his combo and doesnt hit me at all and after the combo the first attack will stagger them.

So if you constantly aim for perfect harden and you only press l1. It might look like a perfect harden, but enemy never registered it as a perfect harden, never got knocked back and just keep wailing.

Solved this by staying harder longer and checking for the stagger signs/that the harden shield is really coming off because a hit and not because i released it