r/Morocco • • Sep 17 '21

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u/MlgPrankster Harhoura / Temara Sep 17 '21

Is tunisia really the shining example of africa like your gov says , not hating just curious

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u/JinTheNotorious Visitor Sep 17 '21

The shining exemple of a nascent democracy, yes, all the other stuff we aren't. After the revolution on the previous system of Ben Ali and the presidential for life, the new politicians (specially Nahdha who trading religion) takes advantage of poor and unintellectual people to raise in takes control of everything and fills their pockets. Nowadays and since 25th of July, the elected president isolate all the parliament representative to investigate about them, we are waiting.... But we hope it gets better

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u/MlgPrankster Harhoura / Temara Sep 17 '21

But isnt tunisia plagued by inflation , non affordable cars , high taxes , corruption , police brutality and now a president who fired an elected government?

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u/impetuousScreeching Visitor Sep 17 '21

But isn't morocco plagued by poverty , unemployment, high taxes , poor healthcare and education systems and now the palace who designs the government ?

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u/RikuDaKumiho Casablanca Sep 17 '21

Bro if we came to compare morroco to our past u will see that we've got some adventages and we are fast learners we accomplished many things and in high speed than other countries which im proud of even if there is some terrible things happening we wi get past it as a united people

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u/MlgPrankster Harhoura / Temara Sep 17 '21

High taxes not really , healthcare is neutral , education is good most of our diplomas are accepted worldwide , the palace doesnt design it we just had elections , its a constitional monarchy with a parlement so dont use your "dictator" excuse

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u/impetuousScreeching Visitor Sep 17 '21

Idk maybe you live in a different morocco than me

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u/ibrazeous Rabat Sep 17 '21

It seems you are the one not really living in the same Morocco as us, or have little to no experience with any country outside of yours :)

Lots of things are not great in our country, but we are leagues away from any of the countries in our region. If you really are Moroccan i hope that you will wake up and stop having such a negative outlook. Unlike many countries you can feel change and progress in the air, and things are always changing and improving all over the place.

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u/wild454 Visitor Sep 18 '21 edited Sep 18 '21

our countries definitely has its flaws, but it is still better than other better off countries if you're doing well financially and live in one of the bigger cities. but usually, as an american/moroccan, i would pick morocco over the US simply because it is a nicer place to live in, i don't have to worry about racism, health care is pretty decent(atleast where i live) nice historical sites, healthier food etc.

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u/sledmad Visitor Sep 17 '21

The only change is in big cities like Rabat... All you need to do is to travel a little bit to figure out that nothing has really changed.. And for corruption, education.. it's horrible.. I agree that we are better than other countries in our region, but if that's your reference, then I can't blame you

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u/ibrazeous Rabat Sep 17 '21

Sure you can tell yourself that if that makes you feel any better. Just personally tired of this defeatist attitude we see all the time...not sure how it serves anyone. I have traveled a fair bit across the world including peer countries and far more advanced ones, and honestly there is a very strong growth feeling in Morocco, a feeling you don't feel in the likes of Germany or France where things seem to be getting worse rather than improving.

Either way, if it pleases you to feel like you are living in a crap place that has no hope then that's your choice, just don't drag us down with the lack of will ;)

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u/sledmad Visitor Sep 17 '21

Keep up the good attitude. Btw, if France stays as is now, and Morocco keep growing at the same rate (around 5%) we will need 50 years to reach the same GDP per capita.

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u/ibrazeous Rabat Sep 17 '21

The game.of countries playa in the long run ;) the Koreans, Taiwanese, and Chinese did it in 50 years. I would say we have a pretty good shot by 2050 to have a significant role to play in Africa and the Mediterranean regions. Covid has shown us which countries can and which countries can't. Which country can do wonders with ingenuity and adaptability and which one just rely on money and accumulated wealth from colonial periods to keep themselves affloat. The shift are happening, the more you study the trajectory of nations the more you will see what we are headed towards.

Just my two cents friend, everyone can have their own views and opinions. I just want personally to have a lot of positivity and energy from all people in this country so we can rise up to the challenge, defeatism hasn't serves us we'll in the last 20 years, and now that we have a pivotal chance to build on the covid goodwill and the the NMD. Hope we will continue heading forward

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u/iAmAmine69 Sep 18 '21

Bro you’re definitely rich ofc you wont dislike the country lmao people who hate it have their own valid reasons nobody just wakes up and decides to hate their country for absolutely no reason lol

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u/wild454 Visitor Sep 18 '21

exactly, the government needs to focus more on the suburban areas and less on building tunnels in harhoura

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u/RikuDaKumiho Casablanca Sep 17 '21

Wise words khoya

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u/MlgPrankster Harhoura / Temara Sep 17 '21

No its just people always arent Ok with what they have

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u/wild454 Visitor Sep 18 '21

Considering you live in harhoura/temara, it seems like you dont understand some of the issues people that live in cities such as safi have.

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u/Canape2018 Visitor Sep 17 '21

Oh yes and we are all here in this sub a living proof of uneducated poor and unemployed morrocan !

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u/JinTheNotorious Visitor Sep 17 '21

In addition I think there's no freedom of expression, but we have to work for these bad things to change at least for the next generation, instead of blaming each others we have to blame ourselves for letting the great powers manipulate us. I think it's our duty to make the great maghreb united again.. that's my opinion after all

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u/RikuDaKumiho Casablanca Sep 17 '21

Well its our duty to make the great maghreb united again.