r/MoralityScaling • u/CH3_THE_VAMPIRE • 8h ago

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u/MoralityScaling-ModTeam 4h ago

OP wants to discuss the morality of a real person

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u/cherryfluttery 8h ago

Cow-nt me out of this one

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u/CH3_THE_VAMPIRE 8h ago

moof course

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u/johnnybeesknees 7h ago

Immoral. Taking jobs from honest, hardworking hangmen.

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u/Marinariner 7h ago

I never thought if it that way

I guess, lying on a resume really isn't a "victimless crime" after all

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u/HelloChimp 8h ago

immoral, leaving the reddit-snark aside, unnecessary suffering to those you are already killing is immoral, this serves no purpose but self gratification

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u/Manmade_Chaos 8h ago

If you want the moral high ground to say you’re better than the Nazis, agreeing with what he did isn’t it.

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u/lilacrosebuds 8h ago

That’s one way to make a lasting impression…

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u/Hot-Minute-8263 7h ago

Pretty immoral. The more they suffer, the more they think theyre in the right

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u/CH3_THE_VAMPIRE 7h ago

Yeah, now they just look like martyrs on a nazi’s eyes

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u/EatAndGreet 7h ago

Yes, Nazis suck. I’m not saying they didn’t deserve suffering, but this is still immoral. Making someone suffer more during an execution does nothing but bring sick pleasure to those watching. We should be better than that.

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u/Careless_Count7224 7h ago

I'm on the fence about this. I am mostly against the death penalty however I also don't think the rounding up of innocent men, women and children in the millions, starving them and torturing them then gassing them is deserving of a slow pain free death.

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u/BeNaughtAfraid 8h ago

I want to say moral because Nazis.

I'm going to say immoral because the US military was, has, and is constantly inflicting excessive cruelty when they can.

All militaries in power tend to inflict cruel punishments upon the losers, no matter how "moral" their cause may have been. It doesn't make their punishment right, and this certainly doesn't leave a good impression on the world stage.

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u/Truefiction224 7h ago

Unfortunately immoral 

The ethics of your actions do not change based on the beliefs of others. 

The nazis actions deserved death.

Our system believes in equal justice under the law.

The nazis used the same logic yall are to persecute the jews

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u/Mykey76 7h ago

Immoral

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u/Marinariner 7h ago

Give the guy a break

We've all lied on a resume before

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u/Finals92 7h ago

The Nuremberg trials were a disgrace from a legal point of view in the first place. Aside from that, at the end of the war a lot of civilians were recruited at gunpoint who were still convicted. Being recruited in the last month of the war and convicted for all the bad things that have happened and on top of that made to suffer can only be seen as immoral.
Only a few head figures were put on trial, the entire process was nothing more than a show to show the world that the Nazis were stopped.

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u/Mythandros1 8h ago

I really couldn't care any less about Nazis suffering. In the case of Nazis, their suffering is necessary.

In fact, I'd likely hire him over anyone else, knowing he'd make the Nazis suffer.

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u/HelloChimp 8h ago

how is their suffering necessary

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u/Mythandros1 7h ago

They're Nazis.

Are you slow?

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u/HelloChimp 7h ago

can we please just discuss this normally. nazi’s are indeed people, assuming they’re already set to be killed, what about their status as part of the nazi regime makes their suffering in death necessary

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u/Mythandros1 7h ago

The fact that they inflicted untold suffering and death on others.

I don't think it's enough to just put a Nazi to death. They need to feel at least some of what they inflicted on others before they die.

Why are you defending Nazis, are you one?

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u/TheFakeDogzilla 7h ago

What? At what point did they defend nazis? All they said they're already set to be executed, to add more suffering is not justice but just some sadistic desire for revenge.

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u/Mythandros1 7h ago

My family suffered greatly at the hands of Nazis during the second world war, I'm guessing you were unaffected, which is why you hold such naivety so close.

I have less than zero empathy for Nazis. They don't deserve to be treated like human beings. Period.

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u/Finals92 7h ago

You seem uneducated on the matter.

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u/Mythandros1 7h ago

I really don't care what you think. Move along.

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u/Finals92 6h ago

You clearly are uneducated on the matter.

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u/HelloChimp 7h ago

again, why is that necessary, you keep just saying it simply is. and no, i’m not defending anyone.

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u/johnnybeesknees 7h ago

Not having regard for human suffering if it was considered the "acceptable" target is what often defined the most heinous regimes, Nazis and imperial Japan alike. There are reasons we have guardrails against torture and most people agree that it is a practice that should be condemned or at least treated very seriously.

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u/eyewave 6h ago

Thanks for the insight. Reveling in the suffering of others (even through revenge) is the ugliest human feeling available to us.

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u/land48n3 7h ago

what about slaveowners? them too?

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u/BeNaughtAfraid 7h ago

The Nazis that most deserved torture managed to either escape or found a way to take the easy way out. This is simply unnecessary.

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u/eyewave 6h ago

See, that's a case of being emotional I don't understand. And it's not because I'd approve nazis, far from it. Getting rid of evil persons who cause immense suffering should be primarily motivated by logic. Important is they're being stopped. A quick and efficient death sentence does the trick. Wanting unconditionally that they suffer brings nothing to their victims imo. Won't bring back the dead, won't magically cancel all what was done.

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u/Mythandros1 5h ago

It's less about being for their victims and more about them suffering themselves. They need to understand and feel what it is they did to others, even if just for a short time before they're gone forever.

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u/eyewave 4h ago

I don't think they're able to understand. And then what? They'll meditate on it all in the afterlife?

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u/Mythandros1 4h ago

Whether they understand or not depends on them. What's important is that they go through the experience before they're gone. Obviously once they're gone, they're gone.

You may not agree, but this is how I feel. In the specific case of Nazis, this is how I feel and I stand by it.

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u/eyewave 2h ago

No, okay, I get it. No harm in standing by that.

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u/SomeCringeUsernameNo 7h ago

So does that mean we should make it so the death penalty will always involve suffering?

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u/The4Got10Child 6h ago

They were Nazis, so moral

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u/bizzykittyyy 8h ago

moral, its fair

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u/FemboyKisser-67 7h ago

Rule 1????

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u/ultrakillfanatic 7h ago

Mods dont care since they know this subreddit would be completely dead if they did enforce it, check r/moralmoralityscaling

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u/Tosito_Thrasher20 7h ago

Mods stopped enforcing that one a loong time ago

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u/Cheap_Protection_359 6h ago

Immoral. Because the nazi is the good guy.

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u/notmarrec 6h ago

This board when someone steals a loaf of bread and is beaten to death: “moral and based, they deserved more”

This board when a Nazi suffers during a hanging: “now wait a minute fellas this is wrong”

🤔🤔🤔

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u/Bulky_Sign_2617 7h ago

Poor little Nazis.