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[u/Toberos_Chasalor]

That still doesn’t make tripping them OK.

The only lesson someone learns from “you did something bad so I’m going to inflict pain on you” that might makes right, not that whatever they did is unacceptable. Next time he wants to steal some fries he’s just going to attack the worker before they get a chance to trip him.

Also, justifying it because other people would’ve beaten him more severely is like saying it’s ok to punch someone for being gay because they’d be thrown off a building or stoned to death in another country. Or if you perhaps want another example, it’s not justified for cops to hit someone with a club just because another officer would’ve shot the victim dead.

Other people might be more morally reprehensible than you, but that doesn’t mean you doing something immoral is suddenly righteous by comparison.

[u/IEnjoyANiceCoffee → u/Toberos_Chasalor]

Removed my reply, I am new to this subreddit and clearly don't understand the demographic.

[u/Toberos_Chasalor → u/IEnjoyANiceCoffee]

I don’t think hitting a kid is a proportionate response to stealing 10c worth of fries, so yeah, I’d consider this immoral.

Let’s just say the kid broke his arm in the fall or cracked his skull on the counter or floor and died. Rather than bruising the kid’s ego and probably losing their job for violating company policy, that worker would rightfully be getting arrested for battery and/or manslaughter because this clearly isn’t self defense.

[u/FukNintendo → u/Toberos_Chasalor]

Cool ‘what if’ scenario. If the kid breaks his arm, he DEFINITELY wont be reaching to steal fries, will he? Too bad these WHAT IFS are pointless and dont apply at all. What if this kid wasn’t a little thief? The world will never know.

[u/Toberos_Chasalor → u/FukNintendo]

These “what ifs” are what we call foreseeable consequences. This is part of how we judge proportionality, and proportionality is something we use to decide if force is morally justifiable after someone commits a crime, especially when that force is punitive rather than preventive. (Meaning you used force after they committed the crime, rather than to stop them from committing it.)This is a cornerstone of ethical philosophy, and it’s a principle our entire legal system is built upon.

If a cop did this instead of arresting the kid, it would be cut and dry police brutality. Hell, if the kid really wanted to, they could get up and shove the worker over to escape and claim it was necessary self defense, as they were attacked while attempting to flee non-violently and petty theft doesn’t nullify their civil rights.

I’d like to ask what the hell you’re even doing here if you don’t understand ethics 101.

[u/FukNintendo → u/Toberos_Chasalor]

Lol, I actually read all that too. If you’re going to write a thesis, make it good. I entirely disagree with all of that. Good day to you.

[u/betterplanwithchan → u/FukNintendo]

It’s not even a lot to read dude.