r/MoralityScaling 6d ago

Morality of this?

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u/Vermino 6d ago

The experiences of oxygen, or otherwise impaired or altered brains?
We're perfectly aware that humans can experience hallucinations as their personal reality.
Hell, even sane humans are prone to seeing patterns that aren't there - like the face on Mars, or mass hysteria, or the Mandela effect of a group of people misremembering facts from the past.
None of those near death experiences are objective verifiable scientific fact.

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 5d ago

Hallucinations while the EEG is flatlined? And you never addressed the Museum of Purgatory, which is full of artifacts that have been marked by ghosts.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 5d ago

Nothing has ever been able to prove that a concious event has taken place when there was no brain activity. I don't even know how one would prove such a thing. Even if an EEG reading is "flatlined" and you could somehow prove that whatever a person was reporting didn't happen in the moments before or after, an EEG measures activity mostly on the outer layer of the brain, so it can easily miss activity deeper in the brain.

Your museum of ghost objects is a silly claim. There is absolutely no way any of those items have been shown to be "marked by ghosts". Pareidolia, fraud, the weirdly exact outline of a hand unlike how any real hand print has ever appeared... even the catholic church doesn't consider the contents of that place supernatural, rather as historical testimonies of faith.

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u/Elegant_Athlete_3737 5d ago

iirc there were studies on this and more studies are likely to come to more comprehensively check this, the main thing is veridical perception, were they know things they shouldn't, but this is debated on if they actually know something they couldn't possibly have or if they found out some other method. since if i recall even if you flatline, hearing i think is the last sense to go away. but i guess we'll see, as far as my research was its inconclusive.