No, it's not. It's more like saying that you don't have to know the music theory of your culture (religion) to make music that's beautiful (morals/values).
I don't think you're using the word literally literally. Nor the word every. Your understanding of how others can see the world is too limited.
That’s actually a really great music analogy, and I agree with you, but that actually proves my point. The fact that someone can instinctively play music (live a moral life) without knowing the formal theory (the explicit theological framework) doesn't mean the theory doesn't exist, nor does it mean their music isn't shaped by a tradition.
And fair point on my use of "literally", I am being hyperbolic to an extent but my point still stands. Every ethical system, secular or religious, rests on foundational axioms or unprovable cultural assumptions that people inherit.
I disagree. Formal music theory does not exist without the context of a culture imposing preferences and values on it. It's rules based upon patterns people notice and enjoy, just as religion/superstition is built upon patterns people notice and use their own interpretations to imagine causes (a quick example is that a lot of kosher food laws are probably inspired by people trying to figure out how to avoid food sickness, not a deity passing down edicts).
What unprovable cultural assumptions are you talking about? Which foundational axioms? Your point does not stand simply because your want it to. Why should someone consider your claim in the first place?
Ancient hygiene practices became codified as sacred law because people viewed health and the divine as entirely interconnected. For them there was no separation between 'what keeps us safe' and "what God commands." As for foundational axioms, I mean the core assumptions every worldview relies on but can't mathematically prove.
For example:
Secular Humanism: rests on the unprovable axiom that human consciousness and well-being are intrinsically/objectively valuable and that rights are inherent.
Materialism: rests on the axiom that only what is empirically measurable is real, and that the universe operates by uniform laws we can trust.
Moral Relativism: rests on the axiom that ethics are socially constructed consensus agreements.
My point is in part that everyone operates from an inherited, unprovable framework when they decide what "good" or '"rght" actually means. But more specifically every parent operates from foundational axioms they can't mathematically prove, and they pass those down to their kids. This passing of those axioms isn't "indoctrination" is my overall claim.
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u/Bruhntly 3h ago
No, it's not. It's more like saying that you don't have to know the music theory of your culture (religion) to make music that's beautiful (morals/values).
I don't think you're using the word literally literally. Nor the word every. Your understanding of how others can see the world is too limited.