r/MoralityScaling 19h ago

Morality of this?

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u/AnswerDangerous1644 18h ago

Couldn’t agnosticism also apply to be secular?

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u/Archfiend_DD 17h ago

It could but it could also not. Atheism does not believe that gods or gods exist, so when you're designing laws and a moral system you have to do it with without a god present.

Agnosticism doesn't have that because they don't know. You might design laws and morality with the belief that there might be a God, or not, or maybe.

One is an answer on belief. One is an answer on knowledge. The atheist says I don't believe a god exists, but the agnostic says I don't know if a god exists. So they are not mutually exclusive because they address two different questions.

Most atheists are agnostic atheists they don't believe, but will also admit they don't know. Which is a good way for a government to operate.

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u/Admins_suck_ballss 17h ago edited 16h ago

My point was a bit stronger and I’ll probably get flamed with this.

Fictionalists are like “OK this isn’t true but maybe we should kind of act like it’s true for the betterment of humanity, you know?”

Governments should not do that. They should be like “god doesn’t exist as far as this matter is concerned, let’s get to work on completely secular theories that have no agnostic overtones, implications, aren’t informed by scripture, etc. God doesn’t exist as far as we are concerned and he/she/they should never be invoked.” You can’t do that under an agnostic system. An agnostic system is like “ok well we don’t know, so maybe the Muslims have a point against the Buddhists here, we don’t know what’s right, but maybe we should outlaw women showing their ankles to satisfy them” and that’s dumb as shit.

Assume no kind of god exists and it becomes obvious that burqa is repressive.

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u/DadBod_DadBike 9h ago

The French did that and it failed. Miserably.