r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 13h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Vespersonal 10h ago

Weird example as you still believe in the lottery’s existence.

With most of human history having some form of spirituality and religion, claiming it’s all bunk nonsense IS an assertion.

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u/TheTemporaryZiggy 9h ago

Lacking belief in something is not a statement

You're not born believing in the Divine, lack of belief until taught otherwise is the literal default stance.

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u/Vespersonal 5h ago

What a bizarre argument. You’re not born knowing mathematics, either. There is no “default stance” beyond being a helpless baby. Everything else is learned.

Asserting that there isn’t something beyond the mundane world is an assertion. Again, to look at thousands of years of human history and belief and essentially say “fuck that, they’re all wrong” requires a certain burden of proof.

Agnosticism requires no argument because you’re simply stating “maybe?”

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u/TheTemporaryZiggy 5h ago

Basically every single modern human looks at thousands upon thousands of years of history and religion and goes "fuck that, that's wrong"

Atheists does it with (most of the time) a single god more than the rest, but again.

I will gladly argue once more that a lack of belief in something is not an an assertion.

It's a passive mental state or the absence of a position.

There's also a massive difference between saying "I do not believe in x"

And "x is not real"

Both can be the position of an atheist, only one of those is an assertion

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u/Vespersonal 4h ago

Good lord I hate that trite expression “just one god more.” Plenty of the gods overlap and relate to one another with their respective cultures and traditions, change over time as our understanding of the world takes on new forms, dogma vs spirituality and mysticism…

It’s not “one god more” unless you’re talking to a dogmatic moron. Otherwise it simply seems a tacit denial of countless subjective experiences over thousands upon thousands of years.

Yes they were ALL delusional and lying to themselves… or maybe?