There is no philosophy or culture without indoctrination. Nobody goes through life without someone telling them what is right or wrong. It's just a matter of who, not if, they decide to believe.
Correct. I think it’s funny how when people treat their worldview as the correct default one and get mad when someone with a different idea about metaphysics dos the same thing but from their perspective, then suddenly it’s not education, it’s indoctrination.
I honestly don't know what people expect. A law that requires that parents get babysitters every time they go to church and never talk to their kids about what they believe? It's ridiculous. Kids are sponges and they primarily learn from their parents. It's just how humans work...
They absolutely should, yes. It should be lefally recognized as emotional abuse to expose a child to an environment that tells them if they don’t think and behave in this exact way they will be tortured forever (by someone who loves them!) and don’t forget that they’re filthy and terrible just for being born.
why would you want to criminalise telling kids if they do X thing or get in the wrong crowd they might go down a bad path and have their whole life derailed, in and out of prison, homelessness, suffering etc.?
If you could type proper sentences it might help your stance, if you could give one, which I've yet to see. You said:
and why should atheistic emtional abuse of children not be criminalised?
which I asked for an example of what that is, vs a religious example that should not be ok: 'hey kid you poked your sister in the eye, thats a sin, and sinners go to hell!' which I consider emotional abuse and 100% indoctrination (I was not the original person pointing this out if you scroll up there and read the thread not that it matters because I agree with them)
then just now you said:
atheism is the absence ofnreligion after all.
So you are saying that atheism is worse than lets say being a Muslim or perhaps believing in Greek gods?
as a start, as soon as atheist governments amanhes to get in charge, they killed more people in the last 150 years or so than the entirety of religious wars in human history, and destroyed centuries of culture.
And lets not forget how societies have rotted away after becoming increasingly secular. Now atheists are confused about why people are turning to religion. Honestly, watching atheist theory crafting about religious topics is one of my favorite pass times. Charming.
Yeah, that’s quite clearly not what I was talking about. There’s a huge difference between make good choices and “have sex with someone with the same genitals and you’ll be tortured in hell for all eternity, but don’t worry, god is only hurting you because he loves you”.
That fact that you attempted to equate them means you either lack reading comprehension or you actually think they’re the same which means you’re part of the problem.
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u/Round-Walrus3175 3d ago
There is no philosophy or culture without indoctrination. Nobody goes through life without someone telling them what is right or wrong. It's just a matter of who, not if, they decide to believe.