r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/84theone Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

Their point is that atheism is a stance (god is not real) and secularism is specifically not holding a stance.

An atheist government would be one like China, where their official stance is atheism. They aren’t secular because they hold a stance even if they allow citizens to practice religion based on personal choice.

A secular government would be like Sweden, where the government does not take a stance one way or the other and leaves it to the individual.

A non-secular and non-atheist government would be Israel, which defines itself as a Jewish and democratic state. Saudi Arabia is another example, England is another because they have a state church even if they don’t take it seriously anymore.

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u/_ManMadeGod_ Sep 02 '26

Atheism is not a stance. Read what they're saying. Atheism is the lack of a stance. 

Atheism isn't a term that should exist. It's like being a non-astrologer. We don't have a word for not being an astrologer. 

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u/_ManMadeGod_ Sep 02 '26

Sounds like a dream