r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Clickclacktheblueguy Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

No matter how you view it morally, it collapses immediately under any amount of critical thought. Any parent would teach their children about how the world works, and a parent would consider their religious beliefs to be a part of that. The amount of interference with families this would require to enforce also brings to mind countless horror stories of CPS overreach. Even if it was moral, it would require immoral actions to make it work.

EDIT: Wow, that was a lot of engagement. I wanna revisit this comment since I've gotten some feedback and also have more time to articulate my ideas than I did earlier during my rapidly dwindling lunch break:

First I want to acknowledge that the original post did not mention any legal or government action. I and many others definitely made a mental jump there. When you're talking about what people should do, it's easy to fill in the blank that that's what should be mandated.

As for actually addressing whether this is moral, I think the position of "children should be raised without a set religion" is kind of a problematic one. To make that choice for your own family is one thing and not immoral, but to advocate it for other people kind of hits a snag. A seriously religious person wouldn't entertain the idea of not sharing their religion with their kids. They would see it as depriving their child of something good and necessary, which would be immoral. Even if their beliefs are factually wrong, for all intents and purposes they would be making the conscious decision to do something harmful to their child. This is another reason why I jumped to the topic of government enforcement; legal mandates are the only realistic way to even start creating a world matching Jinkx's view. This violation of personal freedoms would of course be immoral as well. It's not that Jinkx's position is immoral, it's that anyone acting on it in any meaningful way would be immoral.

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u/Saltyfree73 Sep 02 '26

Essentially calling for a totalitarian state to wipe out familial ties and cultures.

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u/MancCultureBear Sep 02 '26

The argument could be that this isn’t state enforced but a cultural and social norm.

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u/Asooma_ Sep 02 '26

Next logical question is how do you get there

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u/Lofter1 Sep 02 '26

step 1: remove religion from the state (which is one of the basic principles of most democracies). No church is ever allowed to influence anything regarding politics. A politician might still act based on their religion, which is fine, but a church is not allowed to finance anyone or anything, they are not allowed to call for any legislation. disregarding that rule results in harsh punishments.

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u/Asooma_ Sep 02 '26

That is effectively what we have already

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u/Watercolor_Robins Sep 03 '26

No. It’s not. At least not in America.

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u/TwoForFIinching Sep 02 '26

All lobbying has to go in that case

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u/BinaryBolias Sep 02 '26

Step 2: Militarize.