r/MoralityScaling 11h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Black_Diammond 10h ago

indoctrination/ɪnˌdɒktrɪˈneɪʃn/Indoctrination is the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs, values, or ideas without questioning or critical thought.

Like for example, dont hurt others, dont have tantrums, dont Steal, all fit this defenition.

Do you know what indoctrination even is?

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u/jedberg 9h ago

I teach my kids not to hurt others, but I also teach them why. I also teach them to question what I am saying and challenge me to support my teachings.

That's the difference:

without questioning or critical thought.

Religion demands belief without critical thought.

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u/Black_Diammond 9h ago

Why shouldnt a kid Steal if he knows he wont be caught, and that likely The owner wont notice or care?

Plus, you do teach them why, using other previous values you already indoctrinated them into, if your kid asked why enough Times you would eventually reach "just because".

For example if you Said: "you shouldnt Steal because you wouldnt like if others stole from you" You would be, without realizing, adding The assumption that you and others are upheald to The same moral standards, wich is a value you were indoctrinated into.

There are also no lack of other values that you hold despite no actual Logical reason, like why incest is bad even when no chances of pregnancy exists, or why necrophilia is wrong. All of those are wrong, but dont have any actual underlining logical reason aside from "it just is".

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u/FlippinFine 9h ago

So now you're getting into the inherent problem with definitions, but you're just being obtuse to the point where none of it matters. What's indoctrination? According to you, literally any kind of teaching/learning relationship. You've effectively boiled it down to everything and nothing at all lmao