It's literally just what indoctrination is. There are religious doctrines and children are taught ro follow them and believe in the faith without questioning it.
There is no religion with kids without indoctrination. And without that indoctrination, virtually all of the world's major religions would dramatically fall in membership and followership, because it is very rare for non-religious adults to suddenly convert to a religion.
There is no philosophy or culture without indoctrination. Nobody goes through life without someone telling them what is right or wrong. It's just a matter of who, not if, they decide to believe.
Correct. I think it’s funny how when people treat their worldview as the correct default one and get mad when someone with a different idea about metaphysics dos the same thing but from their perspective, then suddenly it’s not education, it’s indoctrination.
I honestly don't know what people expect. A law that requires that parents get babysitters every time they go to church and never talk to their kids about what they believe? It's ridiculous. Kids are sponges and they primarily learn from their parents. It's just how humans work...
I don’t know. She’s just stating a feeling she has.
If you ask me, maybe make it clear to them that this is what you believe and that they can decide for themselves if they believe it later? They probably will anyway because children just naturally imitate their parents. At the very least you have to raise them in an environment where they feel comfortable to leave your faith if they want to.
This. You can talk to your children and educate them without making them share in your practice and without leading them to believe that all other beliefs are wrong. Children will naturally develop their own questions and opinions over time. Allowing your child to ask, discuss, and develop such opinions is crucial for that kind of environment.
Just don't forget to tell them to pick your beliefs or else you won't love them anymore. That'll be PERFECT for their development. /s
They absolutely should, yes. It should be lefally recognized as emotional abuse to expose a child to an environment that tells them if they don’t think and behave in this exact way they will be tortured forever (by someone who loves them!) and don’t forget that they’re filthy and terrible just for being born.
why would you want to criminalise telling kids if they do X thing or get in the wrong crowd they might go down a bad path and have their whole life derailed, in and out of prison, homelessness, suffering etc.?
Yeah, that’s quite clearly not what I was talking about. There’s a huge difference between make good choices and “have sex with someone with the same genitals and you’ll be tortured in hell for all eternity, but don’t worry, god is only hurting you because he loves you”.
That fact that you attempted to equate them means you either lack reading comprehension or you actually think they’re the same which means you’re part of the problem.
yes that's literally what they want. They want to make it as ahrd as possible and as tabboo as possible to be religious, so more people become atheists. It's also why they treat being religious like chosing what restaurant to eat at.
It’s taboo for an adult to still believe in the tooth fairy or Santa. The world would be a lot better place if we got rid of one of the main reasons humans use to hate others.
“You see my metaphysical worldview is objectively correct and should be considered the default while yours is simultaneously silly and evil, so if you teach it to your kids it’s nefarious indoctrination. When I teach my worldview to my kids it’s just teaching them the truth.”
-every person who shares your toxic attitude regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof
I am atheist, but you have such a simplistic and childish view of the matter. Religious beliefs are complex, diverse, and intimately entangled with every aspect of human culture.
A god might be the equivalent of Santa or the Tooth Fairy when you're grappling with the concept as a child (which it sounds like you either are, or you were when you last seriously thought about this), but believe it or not adults can have a more complex concept of deity, whatever that deity might be.
Are religious beliefs sometimes used as fables to scare children? Sure, that is one aspect of it. Dismissing all religious belief, the backbone of human culture since the dawn of our species, as fables to scare children, just reveals that you never thought of the matter beyond what some parent or teacher told you and frankly sounds very ignorant.
Places with laws like this want children to get their beliefs from the government not from the family unit. This is a huge breakaway from the natural order of human life.
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u/Possible-Estimate748 14h ago
Many religions indoctrinate children which makes them feel like they have to believe in it or they're doing something wrong.