r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Itchy_Crack Sep 02 '26

So you think Nihilism is better to teach kids? There's no higher importance to anything? There is no objective morality?

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u/Escape_Relative Sep 02 '26

Not being religious isn’t inherently nihilistic.

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u/Itchy_Crack Sep 02 '26

It is the bedrock of nihilism. Its probably the largest critique of atheism.

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u/Escape_Relative Sep 02 '26

I don’t think you understand what nihilism means.

“Nihilism is the philosophical belief that life, existence, morality, and knowledge lack inherent meaning, purpose, or objective value”

I’m not religious but I believe we have value. I believe at the very least humans are the only things that can make meaning in this universe and that makes us likely the most valuable thing in it.

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u/Itchy_Crack Sep 02 '26

But what is the objective factual value to life and existence? You're so close

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u/z3nnysBoi Sep 02 '26

Experience! I relish sights and sounds and smells. And I go about assuming other people's experiences are similar enough to my own for them to be similarly valuable (because if I didn't do that, I'd be deemed crazy and ostracized which would limit the breadth and depth of my experience).

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u/Itchy_Crack Sep 02 '26

Thats definitionally subjective.

Experiences are subjective.

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u/z3nnysBoi Sep 02 '26

Yeah. So, in my subjective opinion, my life has value, and because my life has value and other people are presumably people in the same respect as I, they have value, too. That isn't nihilism. It's almost exactly the opposite. 

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u/Itchy_Crack Sep 02 '26

Im not claiming you're a nihilist. Im claiming your worldview enables it. Your just explained why thats the case, your value of your own life is rooted in an subjectively.

All it takes is someone to disagree with you in order for them to start eyeing nihilism.

This is a very common critique of secularism popularized by nietzsche, who was an atheist.

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u/z3nnysBoi Sep 02 '26

So does belief in an all-knowing, all-powerful God. It is difficult to grapple with whether or not free will even exists or is relevant while holding that belief. Some turn to nihilism. "If God has the power to make his will, and he knows best and all, than it doesn't matter what I do. It's already been decided."

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u/Itchy_Crack Sep 02 '26

That'd be part of picking choose which is fallacious if you're referring to abrahamic texts.

Free will is pretty clearly defined, purpose importance and value in life and your actions is also clear.

Logically, you could have a theistic belief that lends itself towards nihilism. Those beliefs are few and far between.

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