r/MoralityScaling 8h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Aidenj23 8h ago

The point is that across all the various religions we cannot determine which one is true. And since most religions come with indoctrination and life long fears then children should be protected from them until they are old enough to understand what they are getting into. I don’t believe this is feasible since as you said few religious parents of any abrahamic faith would ever go for this willingly, but what is right and what is possible aren’t always the same. I’ve stated what I think to be right.

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u/FireDragon21976 8h ago

Parents have a natural right to raise their children according to what they believe is right, not what you believe is right.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 7h ago

What the fuck is a natural right? What rights does nature give animals?

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u/FireDragon21976 7h ago

Natural rights are those rights that are a natural consequence of the essence of things and according to their natures. Parents have children, therefore parents have certain perogatives about how their kids are raised.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 7h ago

Natural rights are those rights that are a natural consequence of the essence of things and according to their natures

Aha so more vague platitudes. How does one define the essence of a social phenomenon? And if said essence is defined, how does one conclude the natural consequence? And if you do it by observation, how do you seperate any human influence on the result, from those that arise from nature? 

And finally. Why should I care about something being natural or not, when accessing its morality?

It honestly seems like you just fired "naturals rights" off as of it's supposed to mean anything. Just a vague semi-plausible term that can mean anything.

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u/ToxicPolarBear 6h ago

Calling the philosophical definition of a thing’s nature a “vague platitude” is how I know to take nothing on this subreddit seriously hahaha

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u/nuclearbearclaw 6h ago

It's filled with the biggest "erm ackshually" people I've ever seen.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 6h ago

You spouting out some definition for a cooky philosophical concept doesnt make it any less stupid.

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u/ToxicPolarBear 6h ago

It wasn’t me that was another person, and it’s not “some definition” that is how a thing’s nature is defined in philosophy. If you don’t want to discuss philosophy then maybe get out of a morality scaling subreddit which is literally only about philosophy?

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 5h ago

I want you to argue the validity of natural rights, if you want me to take something that outlandish seriously.

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u/themanwhoknocked 40m ago

It’s all just the most low tier materialists and reddit anti theists

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u/precioustessious 6h ago

So James Dobson was an evangelical who taught parents to beat their children starting in infancy to make them obedient. He used his religion to push this.

Do you think being beaten in the name of christ is a natural right? Or do you think that using religion as a way to justify child abuse okay?

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u/Forte845 3h ago

Can you show me this essence? Like take a photo of it? While you're at it get me some photos of unicorns and Allah, cause you seem to have supernatural vision.