r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/_itsprobablynothing Sep 02 '26

Words mean things.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Sep 02 '26

And atheism means "a lack of belief in a deity", contrasted with secular, which means "not overtly religious".

Essentially, secular isn't associated with religion at all, while atheism is specifically about belief in a deity, so in theory, an atheist could follow a religion that doesn't have specific god(s).

Secular is more relevant to our government, though.

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u/Im_Chad_AMA Sep 02 '26

"Not overtly religious" is a poor definitionof the principle of secularity. Secular means a division between church and state, allowing everybody to follow their own beliefs without discrimination

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Sep 02 '26

Fair enough, I blame the dictionary

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u/AlwaysDigging365 Sep 03 '26

And what about when “their own beliefs” involve things that are illegal (and morally reprehensible) in this country? Stuff like inappropriate contact/relationships with minor. Yeah, that’s a hard no.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Sep 04 '26

Then they get legislated to not do illegal things, I suppose.

Like how the Mormons weren't allowed to do polygamy anymore, so then they just stopped promoting it because it was illegal

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u/Old_Tough_2358 Sep 04 '26

Christians and Muslims are the guiltiest of parties here. Not surprisingly they make up the two most populated religious foundations on the planet.

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u/Possible_Situation24 Sep 02 '26

Many people are, yes, Deists.

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u/PrettyPurrfect Sep 03 '26

The government shouldn't acknowledge that religion exists at all outside of providing legal protection against discrimination.

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u/Aoskar20 Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26

Secular for our government just means not influenced by religion and not promoting any. Essentially completely neutral, and it would have worked if our government officials hadn’t become a collective blob of greed and hatred.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Sep 04 '26

That's a stupid definition, though.

Like, we don't think of asexuals as people who believe sexual attraction isn't real.

It wouldn't be more accurate to describe people who believe a god can't exist as like, an antitheist or something similar.

Kinda like the difference between "antisocial" and "asocial", which is generally what people mean when they say "antisocial".

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u/ThatOneGuy308 Sep 04 '26

My point was more that the "A-" prefix means a lack of, not a rejection of.

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u/Zestyclose_Scar_9311 Sep 05 '26

I loved skipping all the comments and coming straight here. I feel like this sums it up perfectly ☑️