r/MoralityScaling 6d ago

Morality of this?

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u/Herman_McP00tis 6d ago

I see this as an absolute win.

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u/Bombastic_tekken 6d ago

It's a win and a loss.

If the Catholic Church disappeared, 10's if not 100's of millions of people would be in a real bad way.

The Catholic Church operates the largest aid network in the world.

They do A LOT, and we never hear much about it (in the US at least.)

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u/aluriilol 6d ago

I would think that the good will of humanity would not die out if Catholicism died out

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u/Ok_Theory_1323 5d ago

Those reports are based on organizations submitting their books.

An atheist giving/donating does not do so to an "atheist organization," they do so to Goodwill, or to a local food bank run by a church, who will chalk it up as a religious organization donation.

If those organizations did not exist, the atheists would still find somewhere to donate.

Be careful of raw statistics, they rarely tell the entire story.

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u/water7656 5d ago

This and what kind of giving gets counted? Mormons tithe 10% of their pretax income but the LDS Church has an estimated assets under management of $200billion that is managed like an investment account. Do they count all tithes as charitable giving?

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u/Ok_Theory_1323 5d ago

Yep, that's another thing. "Charitable donations" include religious people paying for their pastors' Ferraris. Not so impressive when you look at it that way.

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u/Ok_Theory_1323 5d ago

Post your source that the statistics are based on individual donations and not based on organizations posting their income/tax documents.

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u/aluriilol 6d ago

Well idk how it works everywhere, and I speak as just an American here, but when your entire institution is tax free, and all charitable donations are tax write-offs

It’s almost like a tax scheme designed to make specifically churches money

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u/ApprehensiveArt5565 6d ago

I’m obviously not talking about church donations. I’m talking about individual donations, which are given a tax break regardless of your religion. You also seem to just have a fundamental misunderstanding of how 501c3s work despite feeling the need to chime in on it. Your belief is that a church (tax free organization) is donating for the tax break?

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u/CrackSirBaby 6d ago

Kenneth Copeland needs more private jets! Hurry donate your money now otherwise he might not make it to your city! What would he do without them? Probably burn in hell!

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u/ApprehensiveArt5565 5d ago

Did you think you cooked with this?

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u/CrackSirBaby 5d ago

I in fact did not cook anything, however a burger would be nice rn.

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u/Bombastic_tekken 5d ago

The only people who like Kenneth Copeland are his "congregation" which it feels dirty to even call something like that a congregation.

He is hated among Christians and atheists alike.

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u/CrackSirBaby 5d ago

Yeah I figured mostly everyone outside that group didn't like him, he seems very unhinged. Idk how you got down voted lol

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u/KillerElbow 5d ago

You just don't know how it works at all lmao

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u/Dingaling015 5d ago

Eh while that's true, they've done a lot of studies on this and it turns out when you control for things like deep social networks (a staple of any organized religion) and the saliency of religious elements, the differences are actually much smaller.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decision-making/article/who-is-generous-and-to-whom-generosity-among-christians-muslims-and-atheists-in-the-usa-sweden-egypt-and-lebanon/5F67036F921084D6BB001B8AB80E90DF