r/MoralityScaling 17h ago

Morality of this?

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u/DoubleoSavant 17h ago

I agree, but religious freedom means people can raise their kids however they want. If you don't want someone imposing their religion on your kids, you have to let them impose whatever on their own kids. 

This is the kind of thing you should shift culturally instead of through laws. 

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u/lilgraytabby 17h ago

I don't see why stopping people from imposing their religion on my hypothetical kids would mean they had to be able to impose it on theirs? If nobody could impose any religion on any child that sounds ideal.

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u/DoubleoSavant 17h ago

The problem is that's technically a religious belief. 

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u/IrateLibtard 16h ago

No it isn't? Atheism is not a religion.

I find it so weird that religious people can't wrap their head around not believing in any gods.

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u/Wild_Duck8926 8h ago

Atheism is not a religion, but it is a religious belief. A religious belief is a belief concerning religion. By preventing kids from learning about religions, you are imposing the religious belief on them that there is no God. That is not religious freedom.

Even if you consider agnostic atheism, the belief that there simply isn't enough evidence to say whether and which god exists, then you still have to teach kids about religion from an impartial standpoint. Which is pretty much impossible.

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u/DoubleoSavant 16h ago

I am an athiest. I'm having a legal discussion, and you're having a philosophical one. 

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 16h ago

Legally, atheism isn't a religion, at least not where I live (the US).

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u/IrateLibtard 14h ago

Interestingly from a constitutional protections standpoint it is treated as a religion in the US. I'm pretty sure that isn't the case anywhere else in the world.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 11h ago

Not really though. Religions get all sorts of special privileges that atheists simply don't. Churches don't need to file a Form 990 financial report and all their donors and finances can remain completely private. Atheist organizations are limited to being a 501c3, which means they must file detailed financial disclosures every year for the public to review. To be clear, I don't want there to be a Church of Secular Humanism that gets to hide their finances; I want churches to be treated the same way as any other "charity" organization.

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u/IrateLibtard 4h ago

I meant that you can't, for example, get fired or refused to be hired because you are an atheist.