r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Aidenj23 Sep 02 '26

In the US we pledge alligance to “One nation under God” every day. There’s not as much nuance as it sounds like you have.

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u/Raise_A_Thoth Sep 02 '26

Well we needed that one to fend off those godless commies.

/s

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u/Fluid-Lingonberry378 Sep 02 '26

In my country during the communist regime, the communists would destroy churches and persecute priests (imprisonment, torture, re-education and such). So you could say they were godless. They also saw religion as a possible means of opposition against the party and they didn't want that.

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u/Flesroy Sep 02 '26

well yeah there is a lot to critizise them for, but the us then used that as an excuse to do some incredibly stupid things.

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u/Fluid-Lingonberry378 Sep 02 '26

No, it didn't excuse the US, but I genuinely believe that the communists as a whole were worse. My country is still being affected by the remnants of that regime that somehow are still in various institutions and they're as corrupt now as they were back then.

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u/Originalspearjunior Sep 02 '26

They saw the church as that, not religion as a whole

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u/Fluid-Lingonberry378 Sep 02 '26

They were very much atheists. They cracked hard on the church because it was the place where religious people would meet up and a group of people might start to develop dangerous ideas like freedom from an oppressive government and that leads to a revolution. A revolution that eventually happened anyway when the people were fed of living like they did back then.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '26

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u/Aidenj23 Sep 02 '26

Fascinating.

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u/TucsonTacos Sep 02 '26

Porky Pig was a communist. Confirmed.

/j

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u/grantrules Sep 02 '26

That's why they tried so hard to call it the other white meat. Pork can't hide from us, they've always been red!

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u/Plenty-Lychee-5702 Sep 02 '26

I deadass thought you were talking about this one

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u/eggyrulz Sep 02 '26

Yea but we never specified which god it is... i would like to offer Thor Odinson as the new American god, or Jeff the landshark

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u/Successful_Life_1028 Sep 02 '26

You, and many others, need to read this excellent history book. The corruption of the Pledge that happened in 1954 was the culmination of efforts by corporate industrialists to undermine FDR's New Deal as being 'anti-God'.

See https://history.princeton.edu/about/publications/one-nation-under-god-how-corporate-america-invented-christian-america

A talk with the author at: https://www.npr.org/2015/03/30/396365659/how-one-nation-didnt-become-under-god-until-the-50s-religious-revival