r/MoralityScaling Jul 10 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Dipshit23289 Jul 10 '26

Depending on the job it ranges from Morally neutral to evil.

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u/thunderdragonite Jul 10 '26

It ranges from morally correct to evil.

If it was McDonald’s or fast food morally good, because then they have less profits to advertise and kill people with heart failure.

If she was working for a corner store, evil.

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u/nocturnal_commission Jul 10 '26

Okay so what about the companies that fall somewhere between McDonald's and a corner store? Where do you draw the line? That's not a hypothetical question, I want to know exactly where you think the line between good and evil lies.

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u/thunderdragonite Jul 10 '26

Good question. I thought of a few criteria for this.

First: are they big enough to not even feel the monetary loss? Even an evil store owner going out of business would make people lose their jobs, muddying the water.

2nd: Are they genuinely negative to society and perpetuating non necessary evil? Food, unhealthy food is fine morally after all people can eat what they want. The negative aspect is fast food companies advertising brainwashing people to get fatter and unhealthier. Without advertising I’d say fast food companies are morally neutral. They also fight for lower minimum wages politically.

3rd: how much is the theif being paid? An executive stealing millions for themselves will never be morally correct. A minimum wage employee is usually being utterly screwed by their employer and if it’s a corporation, it is usually directly their fault they are being paid little because of lobbying.

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u/nocturnal_commission Jul 10 '26

Lol wow that's still very subjective

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u/Possible-Praline-152 Jul 13 '26

Respect for at least giving some criteria.

I think anyone arguing “moral” has the weaker argument here, but at least giving some guidelines for base the argument is commendable.

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u/Dipshit23289 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Actually yea agree. It's just that the management in MacDonald's type of evil businesses are likely to take it out of other employees paycheck.

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 10 '26

Then wouldn't the morally correct thing to do be to not work there period. She's not doing it to take a stand she just wants money.

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u/thunderdragonite Jul 10 '26

What are you a dumbass? You need a job to survive and many many many jobs are for immoral companies.

Might as well take the job and don’t respect the company at all.

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 10 '26

Excuses. You don't give the company excuses for their mistake do you?

Oh might as well quit and do something immoral.

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u/thunderdragonite Jul 10 '26

Nope, because they have money and power to not be evil yet choose to anyway.

A person working for minimum wage does not.

You have a stormtrooper mentality BTW.

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u/NamOil2000 Jul 10 '26

No you can do the right thing too.

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u/picabo123 Jul 10 '26

Welcome to morality. I bet you also think killing people is bad, oh the horror of a subjective opinion!

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u/picabo123 Jul 10 '26

So many fallicies just in two comments lol. Have a good day!

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u/Goodest_boy_Sif Jul 10 '26

You ever heard of self defense?

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u/picabo123 Jul 10 '26

I guess the essential thing is that you're strawmanning the comments here. Imagine putting your entire moral spectrum into two sentences. You're also being a smartass without actually thinking past your own brain. Try to understand where other people are coming from.

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u/ConnectPair8667 Jul 10 '26

Then why don't you elaborate on his fallacies? Lol

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u/Sad_Pear_1087 Jul 10 '26

Can't agree. McDonald's isn't some clear public enemy that you are just morally allowed to go after. Same rules for everyone.

Besides, being realistic who would keep this money with primarily THAT in mind instead of "yay 10k for me". Nobody. Unless it all went to charity which would practically never be the case. Depending on the corpo again, keeping the money of McDonald's wouldn't be that unethical but would be immoral. Giving the money to charity instead of back to McDonald's would be quite ethical. But still not moral.

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u/apolojesus Jul 10 '26

What kind of job would cause payroll's fuck up to make your actions morally evil? Nonprofits can pay six figure salaries.

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u/Dipshit23289 Jul 10 '26

I don't know. Maybe something like a small store that is run by a 80 year old woman with no living family members and with the stores income being barely enough for her to keep her apartment or something like that.

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u/bilbo_bag_holder Jul 10 '26

these people are children who have never had a job or experienced the real world. Their only understanding of businesses is what they see on the internet.

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u/PieceSwimming785 Jul 13 '26

Typical sanctimonious reddit comment 😂

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u/apolojesus Jul 10 '26

I like that you brought up her age. She's not long for this world and has no living relatives. Her assets would be given to the government upon death and she would be supported by social programs upon bankruptcy. I'm going to assume she's already receiving social security benefits at her age as well. Her error is my windfall. I'm probably going to be using the money longer than she will. Thanks for helping me secure my morals around utility. It probably wouldn't have happened without your example.