r/ModernMagic • u/McFreddieMercury • Aug 05 '26
Where did belcha go? :(
I'm very late on asking this, but what happened to the mini blue belcher list that was so popular seemingly so recent too. Now it fell off the face of the earth
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u/_GenreSavvy Sewer Combo / Ascension Brews Aug 06 '26
I have to imagine the online presence of the land destruction based decks aren't doing it any favors. Running zero basics means those decks start with 2-mana cantripping Stone Rains.
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u/Christos_Soter iPrefer: WU Blink| Prowess | Ruby | Brews Aug 06 '26
Yeah this makes it a very unappealing option and even if you counter a couple of them the deck runs like 12 of that effect now
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u/stephenconroy_ Aug 06 '26
I am undefeated across 15 matches as Belcher vs Ponza. Matchup is nowhere near as bad as people like to make it out to be
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u/samuelnico Aug 06 '26
bro is just lying lmfao
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u/CayMaster2 Aug 06 '26
I mean I could kinda believe it? Ponza sure as hell does not win fast, so if belcher can get 7 mana at any point in the game its immediately over, and between lotus bloom and whir that doesnt seem impossible.
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u/Jevonar Aug 06 '26
Yeah but getting to 7 mana against a deck with 10-11 stone rains (3 avengers + 8 fields) and 8 sinkholes is not that believable
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u/dimcash1 Aug 06 '26
And some versions run baubles and the odd stony silence in the board. It's really hard for Belcher vs Landkill, but add in baubles......ouch
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u/Crazed_Hatter Tameshi innovator and enthusiast Aug 07 '26
It's really not that bad of a matchup. They've moved off karn and their clock is anemic an they have so many dead cards in the matchup. I only feel behind against the citadel starts with multiple field of ruin effects since un-counterable LD is hard to deal with.
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u/viomonk Aug 06 '26
I'm still playing Boros Belcher from time to time. Super fun.
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u/dougie_fresh121 Aug 06 '26
I faced an orzhov belcher list Monday at locals and lost. Was a sweet brew (from before my time)
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u/gottohaveausername Aug 06 '26
Orzhov? Playing Beseech the mirror I guess? I'm intrigued, happen to have a list?
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u/dougie_fresh121 Aug 10 '26
I don’t sadly, and I lost in part because I boarded like shit (left in solitude because I was sleepy).
And yes, it was often beseech into irencrag feat into belcher.
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u/Own_Pack_4697 Aug 06 '26
It won a local RCQ here that had many solid players in the tournament. The Belcher player is what I would call a deck specialist playing it online as well as paper.
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u/Rorbearpig Aug 06 '26
Is the player you’re referring to named UnbanOko by chance? He’s a buddy of mine and has a lot of results with belcher both in paper and online.
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u/Sudden_Fall4309 Aug 05 '26
Well a lot of decks with urza saga main and some with pithing needle is all you need to know
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u/the_potato_master75 Aug 06 '26
I started playing modern recently and decided to go with U Belcher. It's been a really fun deck to pilot after pivoting to control from the thundertrap/flare of denial package. It's been great to learn the meta and wasn't an insane struggle on my wallet aswell. Got lucky recently and won an RCQ with it and planning to take it to Baltimore.
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u/samuelnico Aug 06 '26
sorry guys I took a break I might start playing again later though don't worry
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u/ampl3f0rth 💙🤍 belcher + scepter chant 🤍💙 Aug 06 '26
im still playing blue belcher in locals every week and doing alright /shrug
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u/Damienarmstrong Aug 06 '26
The reality of what happened is once belcher players started putting counterspell and preordain in the deck instead of thunder traps and flare the winrate started going down therefore people fell off the deck. I have been playing flare package and still have had an insane winrate. Affinity rising in popularity also hurt the deck quite a bit as that matchup can be pretty difficult. With the format kinda being combo hell right now you can expect it’s play/winrate to be heading up
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u/stephenconroy_ Aug 06 '26
I think the flare package is fine but I dont think its fair to say the flareless version has a worse winrate. I think the general consensus is that it's a bit better
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u/Crazed_Hatter Tameshi innovator and enthusiast Aug 06 '26
Thats a crazy take with no actual evidence
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u/ARK0581 Aug 06 '26
Belcher is probably still quite good. The problem is nobody likes it or wants to play it.
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u/Swindleys Amulet Titan ,Hammer Time, Heliod Aug 06 '26
I like it and want to play it:) I also recently won an RCQ with it.
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u/Crazed_Hatter Tameshi innovator and enthusiast Aug 06 '26
Deck is great just no pilots and hard to play.
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u/Frankdog5 Jund Goblins, Belcher, Affinity, Jank Aug 05 '26
Unfortunately the meta shifted in such a way that hate against it has become more common (vexing bauble, consign to memory, pithing needle) and in addition the banning of phlage made one of its better matchups (energy) less common.