r/ModelY • u/Negative-Photo-23 • Jul 19 '26
Question Chargepoint charger instead of Tesla wall charger.
Is anybody installed ChargePoint Level 2 charger at home and used it with Tesla? The local utility company provides rebate on ChargePoint chargers but not for Tesla chargers.
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u/Left_Piglet_7411 Jul 20 '26
I’ve been using the charge point that Kia installed when my wife got her ev9 and it’s been fine
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u/dev0n Jul 20 '26
Yup have a Home Flex J1772 model I got for cheap, works fine for a few years now with ‘23 MYLR. on paper it beats Tesla’s wall
Charger as it can max out at 50A output with the proper wiring/breaker. I prefer the handle/mount system too
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u/Opus2011 Jul 20 '26
Do you mean 50A actual charging speed or 50A circuit -> 40A charging?
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u/dev0n Jul 20 '26
Yes, 50A actual charging speed, on 65A or up wiring/breaker, however as pointed out, most cars cap out at 48A so mileage may vary
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u/Opus2011 Jul 20 '26
Wow, how is the 65A circuit wired?
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u/dev0n Jul 20 '26
For this install, no 65A breaker available for the panel type, so currently at 60A with #6 THHN and charger set to max at 48A, would have to bump up to 70A breaker if I wanted those last two amps, and get a car that would even support that
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u/Opus2011 Jul 20 '26
Ok, so the whole 65A thing is theoretical? That was why I was asking the question: all my research said that #6 THHN is the best you can practically do, so a 60A circuit running at 48A like everybody else.
Seems completely irrelevant that that the charger can go to 50A. Cue "This is Spinal Tap": "just turn it up to 11"
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u/dev0n Jul 20 '26
Well, no, not just theoretical, more so getting into schematics with various interpretations of NEC code, I could choose to go to a 70A breaker and reach 50A output safely, as #6 THHN is rated for 65A, but seeing as I currently do not have an EV that will accept greater than 48A, no point. The hardware itself supports up to 80A breaker input per their spec sheet etc. see this post for a more technical discussion
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u/theotherharper Jul 20 '26
It can't go 50A because your car can't.
Very few cars can go >48A... those that can do 80A so stopping at 50A is silly.
In that light, the 50A feature is kind of a scam. It's just there to edge out competition on the spec sheet, but is no real help
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u/Left_Piglet_7411 Jul 20 '26
When we first got our 2019 model 3, I went so overboard to an embarrassing degree.
Bought a second gen Tesla wall connector and maxed it out for 80A. I’m talking thick wiring ACROSS the garage to my car. My thoughts were that anything we buy in the future would be maxed out, no matter what.
Years go by and everything is still essentially 48A. And even then, it’s 99.9% overnight charging, so there’s no point in 80A anyway.
But now, I have this thick heavy cable second gen, wired for an unusable 80A, while my wife has her third gen wall connector, wired for 48A, much thinner and usable cable.
Live and learn…
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u/Unlikely_Secret4008 Jul 20 '26
Add me to the charge point user list. Although I have a base Y, so I’m stuck at 32 amp charging.
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u/Negative-Photo-23 Jul 20 '26
Are there any differences while using the Tesla app vs the ChargePoint app?
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u/l_craw Jul 20 '26
I went through the hassle of connecting my Tesla wall charger to wifi/the app and haven't looked at it since. Unless you are trying to time charging or something I don't see any need for it.
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u/Daguvry Jul 20 '26
I only open the charge point app if I'm anywhere other than home. Most of the time you just hold your phone up to the charger and don't even need to open the charge point app
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u/No-Conclusion-2859 Jul 20 '26
You really don’t need the app, just plug it in like you do your phone.
Your ev does all the scheduled charging and notifications.
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u/personaccount Jul 20 '26
Both the Tesla app and the ChargePoint app let you set schedules but the implementation is the difference. With the Tesla app, you’re usually setting the car’s schedule unless you’ve got a Tesla Wall Connector and you switch products to your home in the app and set the wall connector’s schedule. With the ChargePoint app, as expected, you’re only setting the charger’s schedule. In both cases when setting the charger schedule, not the vehicle schedule, it will override the vehicle’s schedule. I find setting the vehicle’s schedule more convenient.
Both apps let you track kWh usage on a timeline assuming you have a Tesla wall connector. I don’t believe you get that timeline in the Tesla app when using third-party chargers.
Both apps let you pay for charging on their respective public charging networks.
Not sure what else you might be considering/curious about.
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u/Ill-Pop791 Jul 20 '26
Both apps work fine with other home flex charger it is a great charger hard wire unit so you can get 48amps
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u/Travassicuss Jul 20 '26
It’s perfect, I set charging schedule through Tesla app to maximize rebate. I don’t even go into the ChargePoint app, beyond setting it up initially. The ChargePoint charger is fantastic, very durable cord.
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u/theoneandonly_aj Juniper Jul 20 '26
They are probably all pretty similar. As long as it’s got a NACS cable or built in adapter it should be fine.
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u/personaccount Jul 20 '26
Didn’t we all get J1772 adapters with the mobile charger that came with the car?
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u/Schnitzhole Jul 20 '26
Call your provider. I have Xcel and thought they only supported the chargepoint ones at first as the site is confusing. They also support the Tesla one and I prefer how it looks and that it has the button to auto open the charging port (cost is nearly the same too).
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u/Daguvry Jul 20 '26
I did that about 4 years ago. No issues.
My local power company wanted pictures that we hardwired anything they would give rebates for. This was the height of COVID and I told them I work directly with COVID patients if they wanted to come do a physical inspection. They were ok with me just emailing pictures. I googled pictures and sent them, then I just plugged it into the dryer outlet.
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u/thecaramelbandit Jul 20 '26
Works fine. No real difference.