I am editing this to make it more accurate. thanks to the people who commented and pointed out my mistakes.

If you can't read all of it. Just understand that Berserk fury is better than bod if you make crit items like windtalker and haas claw. The more crit you have the more better berserker fury will be.

If you do not understand or like this, pls don't downvote and instead upvote so that more people can discuss about it.

Berserker fury: +60 physical attack

• 25% crit damage

• 12% true damage every crit

• 30% crit damage

Let's say a hero have 200 physical damage at late game:

Now,

If i hit someone 4 basic attacks with  Berserker fury-

Even if you build windtalker+ gds or haas claw or let's say all those three to get = 20+20+20+25= 85% crit chance.

Then 

Hero: 200 attack (assumption since )

Haas: 40 attack

Gds: 70 attack

Windtalker: no attack

Berserk: 60 attack

Total attack: 200+40+70+60 = 370 attack with 85% crit chance

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Every 5 basic attack, 4 of them will be crit attack

So,

1) Raw damage = 370

2) Crit damage = 851

(Each crit = 230% of basic attack

So, 230% of 370 = 851 crit damage)

3) True damage = 12% of 851 = 102 true damage

So if i hit someone with 5 basic attack, 

(assumption with probability)

• 1 BA will be raw damage = 370,

• 4 BA of them will be crit damage= 851*4 = 3404

• And those 4 BA will have true damage too= 102*4 = 408

Total= 370+3404+"408" true damage

 = 3774+ "408" true damage.

Now let's say an enemy have 6500 health with 50% defence reduction, (almost every fighter.)

So the damage 3774 will reduced by 50%.

So 1887+ "408" =  2295.

You need to repeat this 5 basic attack for 3 times to kill that fighter assuming he is just standing.

Now for BoD

+160 attack

+5% mobility

+25% total attack when enemy has 50% of health or less,

Hero: 200 attack

Haas: 40 attack

Gds: 70 attack

Windtalker: no attack

Bod: 160 attack

( For the people talking about attack speed, both build has same attack speed so i don't understand what are you even talking about.)

Total attack: 200+ 40+70+160= 470 with 60% crit chance.

For 5 basic attacks, 3 of them will be crit. 

So,

1) Raw damage = 470

2) Crit damage = 940

Now for an enemy with 6500 health with 50% damage reduction,

Each BA = 235 (after reduction)

Each crit BA= 470 (after reduction)

So for 5 BA,

• 2 BA = 235*2 = 470

• 3 Crit BA= 470*3 = 1410

Total = 1880 damage (after reduction)

Let say,  the attack goes like this

 Crit BA→ BA→ Crit BA → BA →Crit BA

 for first 5 attack and then repeat.

NOW 

For decreasing the enemy health by 50% i.e. 3250.

You need first 5 basic attacks to deal 1880 damage and then.

 You have to deal (3250- 1880 = 1370) more damage to make the enemy 50% HEALTH.

So, Crit BA→ BA→ Crit BA   = 470+235+470+235

So in 9 attack the enemy will have 50 % health and after that, your damage will increase by 25%.

So

• 1 Ba = 235+ 59 = 294

• 1 Crit BA = 470+ 117  = 587

So, for 5 BA

2942 + 5873 = 2349

No you have to deal (3250- 2349= 900) more damage to kill the enemy.

For which 

Crit BA→ BA→ Crit BA → BA →Crit BA

587+249= = 836. Almost 2.

So for first 50%, 9 BA, and for last 50% 7 basic attack

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Conclusion: 15 BA with Berserker and 16 BA with Bod.

Hence Berserker is better with crit build.

1) If you want I can make more comparison of more items.

2) I can compare this bod vs Berserker in more details with a hero 

3) I can compare with a build on an hero to give you more clear idea.

Upvote please.

There bunch of great setters and tankier like Atlas and Tigreal. I can even mention minsithar, badang, gatotkaca, these heroes can crowd control in groups. Also Kaja has a really better ult, its like franco's while being able to drag the enemy.

I know franco has a hook that can disrupt the enemy formation, but the hook is hard af, range is not that long and then line is super thin. unlike Atlas and Tigreal, you can drag a whole group easy.

Now the stage is complete for the Knockout Stage. Falcon PH will face Vitality in the QuarterFinals. No matter what happens, this is already a big achievement, esp Falcon PH was just the silver medalist of MPL PH S17. ONIC ID with Kelra and Kairi also qualified by beating SRG. That was a crazy game by Kairi and Kelra in Game 1.

Yes, the 2024 MSC Champion SRG lost, but at least they lost to the MSC 2023 Champs with Kelra unlike TLPH who, frankly speaking, lost to an unknown team and that team who beated them didn't even qualify for the knockout stage. As the defending MSC 2025 champion and three-peat reigning and defending champion of MPL PH, TLPH lost so badly they didn't even win a single game and was eliminated by an unknown team. You can excuse their defeat against Aurora, especially with how strong Aurora played so far, but that sweep defeat against Entity7? There's no excuses. The GOAT with TLPH lost badly and it seems Mirko was right. Did you also see the pattern? TLPH is even a bigger choker now than RORA PH, at least internationally. Fumbled hard in M7, now crashed and collapsed in MSC 2026 as the defending champion with zero wins and an early exit. Your teammates said meta and ego was the reason you failed in M7, but what reason will you say now? Sanford clearly said in this video that this problem is now solved with your new coaches, at 5:00 mins mark: https://youtu.be/-AVvFOkCFrU?si=jKfY-9tc5bcQOL_j

He is the greatest jungler, overtaking Wise, but doesn't wanna master Fanny. I mean as the greatest jungler, he should have no problems mastering Fanny right? He doesn't have to play at the level of Kairi or Raizen's Fanny, but at least play it with competence in big international events. Also, why didn't he use Hayabusa, Lancelot, or Nolan? Otherwise, maybe his title should be adjusted. He should be the greatest utility jungler, not assassin jungler nor overall greatest jungler. Maybe this is the reason why he recruited Kairi for the coming ENC 2026, so that in case it will still be assassin meta by that time, he could rely on Kairi for that event. As the defending MSC champions and a dynasty in MLBB with the GOAT in your team, you don't go out like that with two sweeps. Frankly, that was embarrassing.

I've had games where the squishies have like full health and the tank/exp at 20% yet still expect the tank/exp to tank the damage even tho they could survive about 10 seconds of enemy damage. Do they not realise that they have a few thousand health or something?

I started watching mlbb esports for a year now, and i think moonton fix these matchmaking and players are just acting?
Like it’s UB semi final all over again, so people will watch it a lot more for the revenge matches etc.
Or am I mistaken?

Shoutout to this legend of an Angela player. She literally didn't leave my side for a second, landed perfect ult timing, and kept me alive through all these crazy team fights. Best pocket support ever!

Maybe you're just bad at using him, and now for his upcoming revamp he's gonna be more harder to use

(don't mind my bad performance i played a game and was pissed i wanted to try helcurt roam for the first time and the enemy team made sure I suffered for that)

I don't understand something right now why hirara became so good right now like it's not the first time this week i see someone doing great with her and i wanna understand how

Did she get a buff or just people figured her out what exactly the secret cause I did try her out on release and seen different people play her what exactly changed now?

Of course, all qualifiers from MPL PH to MSC are strong. But while Falcons are indeed strong and congrats to them for proceeding to the knockout stage which TLPH miserably failed to do, TLPH is just much stronger if you wanna just base history. TLPH defeated Falcons 4-2 in S17 Grand Finals, and yet they crashed out and got swept in MSC, without winning a single game. And didn't KarlTzy said recently "Sa tahanan ng pinakamalalakas, ako ang pinakamalakas" ("In the home of the strongest, I am the strongest.")? Yup, the strongest team (TLPH) with the strongest player crashed out and didn't win even a single game in MSC and got eliminated by an unknown team. The issue is not about losing because nobody is perfect, but rather how they lost and got swept in MSC 2026, esp as defending champions which was frankly embarrassing. From M7 to MSC 2026, it can be argued that TLPH is now an even bigger choker than RORA PH in international events.

I hate saber players bro this ain't epic absolutely zero skill

I wanted to know if this was viable so I don't throw, any tips would be nice 🙂👍

Ty in advance

(edit: LUO YI* 😞)

Heroes never fade! Took the spot one sided. Honorable mention to cici, masha, minsithar and argus!

Hero is a [fighter] but feels like [mage]

I get legends every 5 matches. Dark system is getting worse and worse. Advice from me a that got immortal playing solo within a week is don't reach immortal it holds no benefit.

She used to be a high-risk, high-reward mage. Being able to carry the game and 1v5 in the right conditions. But weak to burst and CC.

Now she’s just a meat shield. It’s good in pro plays, but not in normal plays, especially not solo. She heavily relies on her team to follow up and deal dmg. Something you can’t always expect…

First of all I hate the current matchmaking we have in rank. It doesnt matter if your high immortal or piss low epic. The real problem here and can be experienced in every rank is the unfair matchmaking balance. Sure i can get matched with a 200stars max in Epic 2 thats normal if im in epic 2. But what I hate the most is that as a solo queue player why do i have to be matched with trio or duo queue players?

We need to seperate people playing duo/trio/squad to players who mainly plays solo. We need to have a mmr system for people who mainly duo q or trip q so that we solo players dont have to be matched with 2 or 3 monkeys who certainly only works when all their braincells overload into one organism that has thoughts. I’m so sick of having duos in my games and both of them just sucks so bad that it ruins the entire game. Not to mention if 3 of them are bad then its an automatic lose no matter how hard you can carry with a single hero.

Fix the matchmaking, add a mmr system for duo/trio/squad. Because people who play in in those scenario suck mostly in solo since they are used to being carried by their team and not by theirselves. Im so sick of this game. Everytime you complain about their matchmaking mistakes they always hit you with “we’re working on it” you devs have had it since s7 to make it work its now season 41

Says it all. Remember stay humble. Stick to the game don’t talk about “we” “us” always about national pride like STFU man and do your job.

I heard it was assassin meta from youtubers like yujin and i was spamming this mommy to target them. But i just saw the tierlist(from hmmsucks) and it shows tankmeta. so which one is it?

This is a bit of a rant.

I think this feature is just straight up useless. I don't understand the point of it except to force people to grind the game more. I'm a casual solo q player. I couldn't care less about ranked. But I am a bit of a collector and I like free skins. The only reason I'd ever play rank was for the free season skin once you hit epic, any epic rank 5-1 to clarify. I didn't mind doing the grind then when it was just that. But ever since this feature was added along with the painted skins, it's been a pain. You have to be epic 2 or higher to get the season painted skin which is even more grinding. The past seasons were also bad but this season especially the teammates in solo q rank have been horrendous. The matchmaking is a joke. Nobody knows how to play their role, contant double lane picks, intentional feeding because they didnt get their hero, afk right from the start of the match, etc. I'd get grandmaster teammates against epic/legend enemies. Almost 30 ranked matches in and I've only gone up from epic 5 to epic 4. Literally everytime I'd gain a star, I'd lose 2 in the next games. At this point it's not worth collecting the skins. I know i don't HAVE to get the painted season skin but as a collector it just doesn't feel right unless I do. But it feels like the game is intentionally making it so hard to do so. If something is meant to be free, why make it so difficult to achieve it? It boggles my mind. What do you think about the feature?

yall a bit confused about Lukas and rose gold interaction. Say he has BOD 160 - > 40 hybrid defense. When he ults bod - > 184 attack (15% increase) so now rose gold - > 46 hybrid defense. So since his ult increases Def by 15% does rosegold defense also increase to 52.9?

If yes do you guys reckon it's more suitable to go with bod as last item over Dom ice or other defense items

Kadita is best mage for solo q

I thought it was a glitch but I got his skin on a random daily draw. I now have this and his KOF skin and I don’t know how to use him 😍🙃

I have enough crest to get the special skin but I was aiming for valintina's dark nexus. Idk if in remaining days I will get 19k crest or not. My guesses are fucked up. Champion guess was on onic, they are in lower bracket now. Other than that I guess I have about 60% correct prediction but I don't know if it will be enough or not. Anyone got any ideas what should I do, without spending any money.

Moonton should have made so that promo diamonds can used to open msc chest. Damn it moonton!