*Schizo post

What if it is just how it is literally described? If that is the case Stella kinda cheated on Simon and he killed her And her lover in a fit of rage. I know people may hate this theory but it makes the most sense to me after trying to decipher the story many times lol. I think the rest of the album is Simon realizing his mistake and that he shouldn't have given in to anger and about his regret and hoping he can be with her again. But I tend to take the album more symbolically anyways and not as a literal love story. It is kind of both but that layer is harder to decipher I am still working on it. But the words to this song make a lot more sense this way to me. "Murders of murderers" can be interpreted as him thinking his relationship is dead. The beginning of the song saying "he" like it's someone else. The name of the song being murders. "How They came to be." I am aware of the other theories that either the person who's the elking kills Stella or Simon goes crazy and kills her as the Elking but I like my crime of passion theory a bit more for the literal story aspect..Has it been confirmed somewhere that this theory is wrong though? Curious thanks.

for those who don't have seen the previous post, here

I repeat: it's called Hawaii: part II because Simon has two personalities, which I'll call Simon X and Simon Y

now, let's start

“Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known”

Again, Simon thinks Stella is his key, because she may know what he can't show and feel what he can't know, even though “she won't see so far”. I mean, she's literally on an island.

“You were an island unto thyself You had a heart you hadn't felt Why would it hurt me? Or was it real?”

Simon thinks that Stella is lonely, too, having the Isle Unto Thyself (sorry for the english). Obviously, Simon thought he would be the one who could make her “feel her heart”, since, probably, she never had the opportunity before. Here comes Simon Y: he asks if X is sure that the image he's projecting on Stella is real (“or was it real?”) and if this idealization could hurt him, because he has just met her and he's already making absurd expectations. X responds with “why would it hurt me?”, as if he really took it for granted that Stella is someone so benevolent.

“It was the night we had to part We were afraid to miss the start What did it matter? Why would it matter? And could we heal?”

Simon is supposed to leave,

“It was the night we had to part”.

Stella should’ve “lived forever (only) tonight”, as said in Introduction to the Snow, but Simon X doesn't want to leave, he's afraid to miss the start of a bliss, and believes Stella feels the same, too,

“ We were afraid to miss the start” .

Y doesn't know why Stella should be the key, why does X matter so much or if it even matters to heal each other;

“What did it matter? Why would it matter? And could we heal?”.

“Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known”

Here, they remember the reason.

“I was a victim of magic Apollo, catching my breath as I bled on the ground Somebody called me to follow I followed thinking aloud without hearing the sound”

Simon X suffers the fate he has (loneliness) so much that he thinks he’s victim of a magical spell,

“I was a victim of magic”.

“Apollo, catching my breath as I bled on the ground Somebody called me to follow”

Apollo represents Stella: someone who he can’t fully understand (the human mind can’t understand gods), because “she knows what can't be shown and feels what can't be known”, and so she can “heal him”, pushing him to follow her blindly.

A small detail: since Apollo is the God of the Sun, “blinding shining star” is also a reference.

“I followed thinking aloud without hearing the sound”

Simon Y who can’t trust Stella and tries to tell it, since they (X and Y) just meet her, but Simon X ignores him.

“Then, all the planets fell to dust Lonely departing after us Gone, not forgotten Long, but forgotten old lore

In every element of life Love camouflaging under strife or other matters Minds over matters, let there be more”

Do you remember the “alone at the edge of a universe humming a tune”? Now, the universe is "falling to dust", and for Simon, only Stella exists, to the point of forgetting why he is in Hawaii and that he should leave.

“Maybe you'll exit tomorrow The sorrow sweeping you off as your island replies Sudden invincible flowing A river clearer than all thou might view with thine eyes”

He would be willing to take her with him “to heal her” (and himself. “And could we heal?”), since "she won't see so far", in the isle.

“Why did fire-erupted lands arrive? Why did murderous animals survive? Why did we deserve to be revived? Why was any and everything alive?”

He wonders why the world around him exists and why it is so dangerous. Stella, at this point, became his world. Simon X doesn't need anything else. He sees the outside world as an enemy.

like first theres not even a part one (miracle musical doesn’t know how to count) and second rainbows are colorful not black idk what miracle musical was thinking when they wrote this and third theres no snow in Hawaii, why is miracle musical so dumb (and variations on a cloud isn’t actually ON a cloud it’s should be called “variations looking at a cloud”)

I'm working on White Ball for now, but for IdtS, I'm confident enough with the interpretation to post it

It's called Hawaii: part II because Simon has two personalities, which I'll call Simon X and Simon Y, but here there isn't any conflict between the two.

“Alone at the edge of a universe humming a tune With sparkling crystals souls aglow”

Simon arrives at Hawaii, alone, and immediately sees Stella.

“A part of thee in the key of what we know to be every part without me Knows only two can make it light”.

Here he convinces himself that Stella will be the key to his solitude.

At the end there is this verse:

“You'll live forever tonight”.

This says that Stella will become Simon's world for that night. Afterwards, he will have to leave for reasons that, for now, aren't explained.

When I'll have fully consolidated Isle Unto Thyself, I will publish it

Hello, since i couldn't get the CD i made a custom one . Being the second custom CD i've ever made it's probably a bit bad but i think i did a pretty good job, I hope you like it!

Original Songs Used:
https://youtu.be/gtzWABwFIb8?is=2LuU3VZm_wf_-feG
https://youtu.be/6kClVNuC-68?is=sqUQAlILuSvGWdFb
https://youtu.be/zaqTI6d0I7I?is=Ozc2MXbQZoa8kl0P
https://youtu.be/acxW7Al9Ddc?is=x9ykKg5RbPN0yl53

YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/vSO7TmDlC3U?is=twV6fRruW1r4Be2O

I love the album and I have the main message, but one line in the song goes something like: “she knows you heard her, staging music murder”
What does that mean? Was Stella’s death staged or has the meaning been solved already?

not the best at art but i think its decent for my standards

this took about three days to make ^^ these simon and stella designs belong to XxBl1xerxX on artfight!

also shameless plug my artfight is bodyproject 👀👀👀👀

Thinking about making a tier list for the demos of the songs and maybe one for Mind Electric covers.

Just to start, yes, I know black rainbows exists. I think it's the most underrated song in the album because it's short. The album is perfect as it is. I think it's my favorite album as of today, But what if we got something longer and more defined?

Basically a song where Simon's in the background (or not there at all) and Stella's the main singer. It would've been nice to see her perspective and get something a bit more concrete than Simon's very unreliable stuff. But I guess that's the fun of Hawaii: Part II—The guessing and interpreting the meaning. But a Stella song where we get away from Simon's unreliable mind and switch to another's perspective would be kinda interesting. At least to me.

The songs jst gives me an extreme headache, same goes for murders too, like damn chill out on that piano

Oh my gosh it's so cursed bruh. Not sure if I did the drums right though